BigTed3 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 The internet is full of rumors about the hockey world. This is the place to post those rumors you may have found on the web or those you may have heard about in real life. Just be sure to source your information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 The two most prominent rumours right now seem to be: 1) Montreal & SJ are talking. There's no details, its just conjecture. Ive seen it in a few places but it seems like its stemmed from Eklund, so take it for what you will. 2) Letang is tied to Montreal. With PK unsigned and guys like Markov & Beaulieu in the mix, I just dont see us going after Letang but who knows. Assuming there's any truth to Letang being linked to montreal, here's a proposition for you, would you do:Letang + Crosby for Subban + Galchenyuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony5775 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Change Crosby to Malkin and you might be on to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Change Crosby to Malkin and you might be on to something. Yeah, there's no way the let Crosby go, imho. And im not certain id do either deal to be honest. As good as Crosby is, he's been plagued by injuries. Malkin, while amazing...is he that much better than Galchenyuk will be one day, to offset the difference between Letang & Subban? Still, fun to ponder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicochetII Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 The two most prominent rumours right now seem to be: 1) Montreal & SJ are talking. There's no details, its just conjecture. Ive seen it in a few places but it seems like its stemmed from Eklund, so take it for what you will. 2) Letang is tied to Montreal. With PK unsigned and guys like Markov & Beaulieu in the mix, I just dont see us going after Letang but who knows. Assuming there's any truth to Letang being linked to montreal, here's a proposition for you, would you do: Letang + Crosby for Subban + Galchenyuk If you have a chance to grab Crosby you take it. Subban who? That being said, the "rumors" most likely trace back to Letang admitting Montreal was 1 of the 15 teams he would accept a trade to. He submitted a list as per procedure at the end of the season, so the team knows what it can or can not do through the off-season, without having to hunt him down first. ------------ For San Jose, the only likely targets I could see are Marleau and maybe Burns (as a winger). If I had to choose, it would be Burns, and it would involve Bourque. We have to limit our commitments for next off-season, and we've already filled our language requirement with Parenteau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Crosby or Malkin, I don't think its happening. Letang might have made sense if we hadn;t signed Markov, but not anymore. I don;t see a trade like this happening. It would take Subban, Chucky AND Patches, to get Malkin and Letang. I wouldn't do it and its just not happening. It wouldn't surprise me if they're talking about Thornton. We have depth at Center but Thornton would easily be our #1. Maybe for Pleks and a pick? Or DD + Prospect or 2 + Pick? I doubt anything big is going to happen at this point though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsology2 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Yeah, there's no way the let Crosby go, imho. And im not certain id do either deal to be honest. As good as Crosby is, he's been plagued by injuries. Malkin, while amazing...is he that much better than Galchenyuk will be one day, to offset the difference between Letang & Subban? Still, fun to ponder. I love Chucky, but as good as he is (or could be), I don't think he'll ever come close to Malkin. That is just wishful thinking on our part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanCountingHab Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 It would be fun to acquire Marleau to watch him explain over and over again that he is from Saskatchewan and not French. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I love Chucky, but as good as he is (or could be), I don't think he'll ever come close to Malkin. That is just wishful thinking on our part. I know what you're saying but by the same token I dont think Letang would ever come close to the completeness of Subban. I mean they all offer such different things its tough to compare them... plus these trades will never happen, so its moot, but still fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsology2 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I know what you're saying but by the same token I dont think Letang would ever come close to the completeness of Subban. I mean they all offer such different things its tough to compare them... plus these trades will never happen, so its moot, but still fun I agree. However, an interesting thing to consider would be to determine which talent gap is bigger/smaller? Is that difference between the talent level of Subban and Letang greater than the talent level of Chucky and Malkin? I think Subban is an awesome player, and the Habs have not seen a player of his calibre in a long time. He is nothing short of great. But, with that said, I think that Malkin is a generational player that doesn't come into the league very often (let alone on any single team). I think the gap is bigger between Malkin and Chucky than it is between Letang and Subban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I agree. However, an interesting thing to consider would be to determine which talent gap is bigger/smaller? Is that difference between the talent level of Subban and Letang greater than the talent level of Chucky and Malkin? I think Subban is an awesome player, and the Habs have not seen a player of his calibre in a long time. He is nothing short of great. But, with that said, I think that Malkin is a generational player that doesn't come into the league very often (let alone on any single team). I think the gap is bigger between Malkin and Chucky than it is between Letang and Subban. Yeah, for right now, I absolutely agree. Letang is a true #1 dman (easily top 15-20 in the league), but Subban is probably top 5. Malkin is the #1 centre on what, 28 teams? He just happens to be saddled behind one of the only guys in the league that pushes him to #2. Chances are Chucky never makes it to that level... although I do think he'll be a bonefide #1 one day, im not sure he'll ever be a top 5 centre. Back to the trade which, like you, i dont believe would ever happen: I dont know that Id do it, even taking into account hte gaps in talent. The one thing we havent talked about is age. PK is 2 years younger than Letang and Chucky is 7 years younger than Malkin. 9 years - Thats a huge spread that I always hate to give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicochetII Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 It would be fun to acquire Marleau to watch him explain over and over again that he is from Saskatchewan and not French. Was under the impression he spoke French, but probably garnered that from internet sources which aren't necessarily correct. ------------ Per Friedman via Spector, Calgary may be willing to accept a bad contract if it includes an asset. I'm okay with Bourque's contract for this season, as it gives us a roster spot on the 3rd line that we can rotate a prospect into. Unless Bourque can work his way back into the top 6 this season, I'd rather have the spot (and cap hit) freed up by the end of the season. To CGY: Bourque + incentive (mid/low pick or prospect)? To MTL: Glencross Glencross is a grittier and more prolific point producer than Bourque, slightly lower cap hit, as well as UFA at season's end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 According to an article on Bleacher Report, Devin Setoguchi is negotiating with two teams in the East (not Toronto!!)... I wonder if the Habs are one of the two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsology2 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Yeah, for right now, I absolutely agree. Letang is a true #1 dman (easily top 15-20 in the league), but Subban is probably top 5. Malkin is the #1 centre on what, 28 teams? He just happens to be saddled behind one of the only guys in the league that pushes him to #2. Chances are Chucky never makes it to that level... although I do think he'll be a bonefide #1 one day, im not sure he'll ever be a top 5 centre. Back to the trade which, like you, i dont believe would ever happen: I dont know that Id do it, even taking into account hte gaps in talent. The one thing we havent talked about is age. PK is 2 years younger than Letang and Chucky is 7 years younger than Malkin. 9 years - Thats a huge spread that I always hate to give up. Yes, the age gaps are big. But as a fan you gotta love the thought of having a 100 point man on the team. Who was the last Hab to have 100 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanCountingHab Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Yeah, for right now, I absolutely agree. Letang is a true #1 dman (easily top 15-20 in the league), but Subban is probably top 5. Malkin is the #1 centre on what, 28 teams? He just happens to be saddled behind one of the only guys in the league that pushes him to #2. Chances are Chucky never makes it to that level... although I do think he'll be a bonefide #1 one day, im not sure he'll ever be a top 5 centre. Back to the trade which, like you, i dont believe would ever happen: I dont know that Id do it, even taking into account hte gaps in talent. The one thing we havent talked about is age. PK is 2 years younger than Letang and Chucky is 7 years younger than Malkin. 9 years - Thats a huge spread that I always hate to give up. I'd probably try to dump Moen on them; he's probably the kind of guy Burke wouldn't mind having around to mentor a young team. Something like Moen and our 6th rounder for their 7th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Yes, the age gaps are big. But as a fan you gotta love the thought of having a 100 point man on the team. Who was the last Hab to have 100 points? You dont want to hear the answer to that. Last hab to score 100 points or more: 29 years ago. Mats Naslund with 110. We havent even had a 90 point guy since the early 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsology2 Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 You dont want to hear the answer to that. Last hab to score 100 points or more: 29 years ago. Mats Naslund with 110. We havent even had a 90 point guy since the early 90s. Yeah, I had to look that up. Are we the only team since then to not have a 100 point player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanCountingHab Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 Was under the impression he spoke French, but probably garnered that from internet sources which aren't necessarily correct. ------------ Per Friedman via Spector, Calgary may be willing to accept a bad contract if it includes an asset. I'm okay with Bourque's contract for this season, as it gives us a roster spot on the 3rd line that we can rotate a prospect into. Unless Bourque can work his way back into the top 6 this season, I'd rather have the spot (and cap hit) freed up by the end of the season. To CGY: Bourque + incentive (mid/low pick or prospect)? To MTL: Glencross Glencross is a grittier and more prolific point producer than Bourque, slightly lower cap hit, as well as UFA at season's end. He may very well speak French, I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yeah, I had to look that up. Are we the only team since then to not have a 100 point player? I dont think so, but we're certainly towards the bottom in that category. Despite there only being just over 100 (105) players in NHL history to score 100+ points in a season, 1992-1993 had 21 different players score 100 or more, so a lot of franchises had one at least back in 92-93. 5 teams have never had a 100 point player: NJ Devils (since 1974), Florida (since 1993), Nashville (since 1998) and Minnesota and Columbus. (2000). So at very least, NJ has had a longer drought than us!! lol. Still, its been a loooooooooong time. He may very well speak French, I have no idea. Marleau doesnt speak french. He was asked about it many years ago when there were rumours linking him to Montreal & he said something to the effec that he failed his grade-school french back in Saskatchewan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicochetII Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Marleau doesnt speak french. He was asked about it many years ago when there were rumours linking him to Montreal & he said something to the effec that he failed his grade-school french back in Saskatchewan Thanks for the clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 Dion Thanks for the clarification. it doesnt mean we wouldnt be tied to him! All the french sounding guys (Marleau, Rene Bourque, Dion Phaneuf etc) are always tied to the habs, whether we have interest or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted August 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 RDS reporting that Habs are negotiating with Bouillon on a one-year deal. Signing him would pretty much eliminate any chance of Beaulieu and Tinordi both making the team, never mind Pateryn. It would be a huge step backwards.The fact MB is even negotiating with Bouillon is a huge red flag. He's a player who's well past his prime, couldn't keep up with the league for most of the year, and provides nothing that we can't get from the younger guys right now. It would be a real shame to re-sign him, unless the plan is to keep him in Hamilton as a veteran presence all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 RDS reporting that Habs are negotiating with Bouillon on a one-year deal. Signing him would pretty much eliminate any chance of Beaulieu and Tinordi both making the team, never mind Pateryn. It would be a huge step backwards.The fact MB is even negotiating with Bouillon is a huge red flag. He's a player who's well past his prime, couldn't keep up with the league for most of the year, and provides nothing that we can't get from the younger guys right now. It would be a real shame to re-sign him, unless the plan is to keep him in Hamilton as a veteran presence all season. I don't want Bouillon either but the odds of Tinordi and Beaulieu both making the team are pretty low anyway because one of them would have to be in the press box at all times, essentially. I HOPE Bouillon would be a strict 7th, press box guy but does anyone trust Therrien to use him that way? The 6 should be Subban, Markov, Gilbert, Emelin, Weaver, Tinordi/Beaulieu and whichever of Tinordi and Beaulieu don't make it should likely be playing big minutes in Hamilton. Any injury that's going to be longer than a few games should result in an immediate call up, even if Bouillon is in the press box. I don't like it, I don't trust how he'll be used and he's terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 RDS reporting that Habs are negotiating with Bouillon on a one-year deal. Signing him would pretty much eliminate any chance of Beaulieu and Tinordi both making the team, never mind Pateryn. It would be a huge step backwards.The fact MB is even negotiating with Bouillon is a huge red flag. He's a player who's well past his prime, couldn't keep up with the league for most of the year, and provides nothing that we can't get from the younger guys right now. It would be a real shame to re-sign him, unless the plan is to keep him in Hamilton as a veteran presence all season. Good Grief!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East_Coast_Juggalo_13 Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 The only way Frankie Bouillion makes sense to resign is as a 7th d-man, 1 year $750,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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