BigTed3 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 With Patrick Holland, in exchange for Eric Tangradi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 We all knew someone had to go. I guess getting Tangradi is better than nothing. Holland didnt look like he was going to make the Habs roster. Cant complain I guess, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Holland nor Tangradi is very good, but seeing as Tangradi appear to be headed to Hamilton and will have to pass through waivers, he's essentially a throw-away from the Jets. My guess is the Jets agreed to take Budaj's contract in exchange for getting Holland. On our end, Holland wasn't going to play for the Habs and this frees up cap space and roster spot to retain Tokarski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 I think we're gonna like this deal. Size and a net presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 I think we're gonna like this deal. Size and a net presence. I imagine he'll play in the AHL. Dont see him cracking our lineup and the Jets sent him down yesterday or the day before. On the bright side, the Dogs seem to have a much better squad this year. Great mix of kids and vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sashaband Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 I don't like this. I guess I understand why and I see the direction the team is moving in but I still don't like this particular deal. This is giving off a bad smell like it did when Gorges was dealt. Budaj was in his contract year (and it's not an expensive contract) and imo Tokarski would have been better off playing one more year in Hamilton where he could get some serious playing time. Now he's gonna get 20-25 games if that backing up Price. Give Budaj his final year with the Habs. He's been a great team mate and clearly wanted to play in Montreal (he JUST got a new mask) and he knows his role. He's a great back up and his contract was cheap....what more can you ask of this guy? But alas, he's shown the door. This is very discouraging especially when you think about how hard it is to get people to come play here to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 I don't like this. I guess I understand why and I see the direction the team is moving in but I still don't like this particular deal. This is giving off a bad smell like it did when Gorges was dealt. Budaj was in his contract year (and it's not an expensive contract) and imo Tokarski would have been better off playing one more year in Hamilton where he could get some serious playing time. Now he's gonna get 20-25 games if that backing up Price. Give Budaj his final year with the Habs. He's been a great team mate and clearly wanted to play in Montreal (he JUST got a new mask) and he knows his role. He's a great back up and his contract was cheap....what more can you ask of this guy? But alas, he's shown the door. This is very discouraging especially when you think about how hard it is to get people to come play here to begin with. Love what Peter did for us during his tenure here. Played the backup G position to a tee. However, when Price went down he was out performed by the younger Tokarski. Good teams make room for the youngsters when the prove that they are ready. This is what happened with Peter. Hockey is a business and lots of players get traded. It's part of the game. Hopefully Moen and Bouillon are the next to go/be cut. Maybe Bourque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Budaj was a great back-up in his time here and by all accounts, yes he was a model teammate. But that being said, there are two roles for a back-up: to spot start when called upon to come in cold and to play stretches of games if the starter goes down. Budaj faltered in that second function last year, and the truth is that we have a younger, cheaper guy who might not be as experienced at the first job but certainly seems like he can do better in the latter role. I don't have high hopes Tangradi will have any impact for the Habs, but this trade is a win to be able to deal Budaj away and save some salary, especially when so few teams actually needed goalies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Careyprice Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Solid trade for a habs pov; the habs get the better player for the AHL Tangradi > Holland, while freeing up cap space and reducing the contract spots from 49 to 48. We give Tokarski a chance to be a back up and give a classy guy a fair shake on another team. A big fan of having Bowman and Tangradi as fillers in case of injuries and bring some veteran leadership for the young bulldogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 It looks like we gave up Budaj for nothing cause Tangradi was put on waivers... then again I didn't think we'd get much for him and he is a big body. I'm just happy they went with Tokes, so I'm happy about this trade. I wouldn't have liked seen Budaj get sent down either, he did so well for us, at least now he'll be in NHL and given the situation in the PEG... who knows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted October 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 It looks like we gave up Budaj for nothing cause Tangradi was put on waivers... then again I didn't think we'd get much for him and he is a big body. I'm just happy they went with Tokes, so I'm happy about this trade. I wouldn't have liked seen Budaj get sent down either, he did so well for us, at least now he'll be in NHL and given the situation in the PEG... who knows! Tangradi goes to Hamilton. Neither he nor Holland is likely to have much of an impact on who wins this trade. Winnipeg gets a better back-up goalie, Montreal gets the roster spot and cap space. When we moved Halak, we did so not only for the trade return but also because having him as a back-up didn't yield us much value. Similarly, if the team decided Budaj was #3 behind Tokarski, then it didn't serve anything to use that roster spot nor to have him in Hamilton and use up cap space for nothing. Budaj's agent also stated that his client asked for a trade in the off-season, so this was inevitable. Marc Bergevin really did well to find a spot for Budaj to land and not have to give up any kind of a useful asset to get someone to take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Budaj reportedly asked for a trade after the playoffs. Per Guillaume Lefrancois of La Presse. He did a great job of hiding it and making MB's job a bit easier. As for trading Budaj for nothing, if we claimed Tangradi off waivers, he would not be able to be sent down to HAM. Since the main purpose for this trade was a salary dump, that would defeat the purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopM_ZMGniA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Shut down the PC for 5 hours and what happens? More big news!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 Shut down the PC for 5 hours and what happens? More big news!!!! More big news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted October 5, 2014 Report Share Posted October 5, 2014 More big news? IMO, our backup gets trade is "similar" to Josh being traded, or Gio being unsigned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Budaj was in his contract year (and it's not an expensive contract) and imo Tokarski would have been better off playing one more year in Hamilton where he could get some serious playing time. Now he's gonna get 20-25 games if that backing up Price. All the more reason to trade Budaj though. Your point is that Tokarski is the future while Budaj would be here 1 more year only - but both would have to pass through waivers to go to hamilton. Had we sent Tokarski there we would have been opening him up to being plucked off the waiver wire. This move was about getting Tokarski the backup role and giving Budaj a chance to play somewhere else (he probably would have cleared waivers). Frankly, this move probably makes us look better to potential FA in the future as it shows we go out of our way to give people a chance in another organization if we dont have room for them here. Budaj reportedly asked for a trade after the playoffs. Per Guillaume Lefrancois of La Presse. Class act through and through. Will be sorry to see him go but this is the right move for the team and, i think a good move for Budaj, who should get the opportunity to play more games in Winnipeg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_93 Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 This works out well or everyone, I think. I'm not sure how many NHL games Tangradi is going to play with us, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPPAPUMPED Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 I am happy for Budaj that he will get his chance with the Jets to compete for a starting position & Holland is a good young player that should be able to crack the line-up with the Jets. MB has made a couple of controversial moves in the past several months & he better be careful as he is playing with fire for sure. I feel MB is playing around to much with the chemistry of the dressing room & it may come back to haunt him in the end. Budaj deserved to be in net when Price went down in the play-offs I will argue with anyone on this issue. Budaj was a solid net-minder behind Price & the two goalies had a great chemistry together for sure. Marc Bergevin is making moves to better the Habs I understand this but I'm worried that he may be playing around with the dressing room chemistry this worries me . Let me know what you all feel as the Habs are our biggest concern as far hockey goes LMAO . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Will the acquisition of Tangradi spell the end of Travis Moen as a Hab? He's younger, bigger and most likely tougher than Travis. As far as the skill set is concerned, he may even be a viable penalty killer which had become Moen's greatest asset. I know he will start the season in the AHL by the current look of things... but I do believe the Habs could use his size and toughness this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Will the acquisition of Tangradi spell the end of Travis Moen as a Hab? He's younger, bigger and most likely tougher than Travis. As far as the skill set is concerned, he may even be a viable penalty killer which had become Moen's greatest asset. I know he will start the season in the AHL by the current look of things... but I do believe the Habs could use his size and toughness this season. That's the only question, I think. I believe Moen is a good PK player, if Tangradi is even close to him than we really have no reason to keep Moen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Buds placed on waivers. Tough luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 That sucks for him. Don't really see another team picking him up. Hope i'm wrong. Europe bound??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsAlways Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 Budaj was in his contract year (and it's not an expensive contract) and imo Tokarski would have been better off playing one more year in Hamilton where he could get some serious playing time. Now he's gonna get 20-25 games if that backing up Price. Well a couple of issues here ... In order for Tokarski to play with the dogs this year, he would have to be placed on waivers ... and I doubt he made it without being claimed Secondly, Budaj unfortunately was over paid for the performance and role he was filling. He was good, maybe stellar even, for stretches ... but in the long run Tokarski is a better option given all the parameters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted October 6, 2014 Report Share Posted October 6, 2014 I am happy for Budaj that he will get his chance with the Jets to compete for a starting position & Holland is a good young player that should be able to crack the line-up with the Jets. MB has made a couple of controversial moves in the past several months & he better be careful as he is playing with fire for sure. I feel MB is playing around to much with the chemistry of the dressing room & it may come back to haunt him in the end. Budaj deserved to be in net when Price went down in the play-offs I will argue with anyone on this issue. Budaj was a solid net-minder behind Price & the two goalies had a great chemistry together for sure. Marc Bergevin is making moves to better the Habs I understand this but I'm worried that he may be playing around with the dressing room chemistry this worries me . Let me know what you all feel as the Habs are our biggest concern as far hockey goes LMAO . We'll never know but maybe MB wants to change the chemistry in the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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