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Sun, 2 November 2014 Flames @ Canadiens 7:00 PM EST City RDS TSN 690


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The surprising Flames (6-4-2) visit our conference-leading Habs (8-2-1)

TV: City, RDS

Radio: TSN 690 CKGM, Sportsnet 960 CFAC

Season series: Alex Galchenyuk and David Desharnais scored in the shootout when the Montreal Canadiens defeated the Calgary Flames 2-1 on Oct. 28 in Calgary. Canadiens goalie Carey Price stopped 37 of 38 shots and then stopped Jiri Hudler, Sean Monahan and Johnny Gaudreau in the shootout. Flames goalie Jonas Hiller made 18 saves.

Flames team scope: The Flames are 3-1-2 in their past six games entering Sunday, and one reason for that has been rookie forward Gaudreau. In those six games he has two goals, each a game-winner, and three assists. The hot streak comes after he was a healthy scratch against the Columbus Blue Jackets on Oct. 17. "Every game I'm feeling more comfortable," Gaudreau told the Flames website. That comfort level was on display Friday against the Nashville Predators when he had a goal and an assist, as well as a spectacular move around Predators defenseman Anton Volchenkov in the first period to create a prime scoring chance during a 4-3 win. "It seems like the puck's on a string for him lately," Flames captain Mark Giordano told the Flames website. "Not just [Friday] but the past few [games]. Really nice to see. [Friday] he was a game-changer. There's nothing else to say. He really changed the game for us. It seemed like every time he touched it something good was going to happen."

Canadiens team scope: Montreal spent about 20 minutes before practice Saturday working on its power play. The Canadiens are 0-for-12 in their past five games and entered play Saturday 26th in the NHL at 9.4 percent. They practiced Saturday with the same line combinations they used Thursday in a 3-2 overtime loss at the Vancouver Canucks, including a top line of David Desharnais centering Max Pacioretty and Dale Weise. "When you're putting lines together you want to … you're trying to have a good mix, guys going to work in the corners, guys who can make good plays, a guy who could score," coach Michel Therrien said. "We think that could be a good mix." Therrien said that just because the lines looked one way Saturday doesn't mean they'll look that way Sunday.

Home at last!

GO HABS GO

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Hoping for a much better effort then in Calgary. Time to give Price a little support.

Thanks for the GDT habs_93. :)

Still looking for a volunteer to do this one.

Wed, 5 Nov 2014 Canadiens @ Sabres

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If nobody gets it by Tuesday, I'll handle it.

That's great and thank you. Would be nice to see some new blood pitching in. Mods would definitely make sure a GDT is up one way or the other and we would step in only as a last resort,, but we would rather give that opportunity to any member.

Once again,,,,,if somebody is considering giving it a shot but are unsure of how to proceed,,,,we're here to guide and assist if needed.

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CANADIENS


Max Pacioretty - David Desharnais - Dale Weise

Lars Eller - Tomas Plekanec - Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau

Rene Bourque - Alex Galchenyuk - Brendan Gallagher

Brandon Prust - Manny Malhotra - Travis Moen


Alexei Emelin - P.K. Subban

Andrei Markov - Tom Gilbert

Nathan Beaulieu - Mike Weaver


Carey Price

Dustin Tokarski


Scratched: Jarred Tinordi, Jiri Sekac, Michael Bournival

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I don't know about calling that first trio our #1 line.

The 3rd pairing looks stronger, even with RB on it, and that 2nd pairing seems to be the one with some potential, if they're given the same offensive freedom that Pleks has been getting so far.

Biggest concern seems to be the abandonment of Bourny and Cakes to date. Either could be a better slot in that DD line then Weise IMO.

I somehow doubt these pairings will get through the game before being shuffled.

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So tired of seeing us overplay our grinders... we'll never meet our full potential if we continue to throw out line-ups the way we do. MB has done a great job giving us a roster that can be competitive, and it's as if we're doing all we can to make it as difficult as possible to meet that potential... Weise on the top line, Moen and Prust in for the umpteenth time while Sekac and Bournival sit, continuing to play DD like he's Sidney Crosby... come on, it's time to give ourselves better odds at continued success, not being content with scraping by and not misinterpreting wins as strong play.

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So tired of seeing us overplay our grinders... we'll never meet our full potential if we continue to throw out line-ups the way we do. MB has done a great job giving us a roster that can be competitive, and it's as if we're doing all we can to make it as difficult as possible to meet that potential... Weise on the top line, Moen and Prust in for the umpteenth time while Sekac and Bournival sit, continuing to play DD like he's Sidney Crosby... come on, it's time to give ourselves better odds at continued success, not being content with scraping by and not misinterpreting wins as strong play.

I hear what you're saying Ted I even agree, but we're only 10-11 games in.

I'm thinking there are other reason why certain players aren't playing.

Waiting for certain match ups to insert some of our younger guys, giving our vets their chance to show they should dress, etc...

I really don't see Moen as part of our long term plans. If I remember correctly, he just started a new contract as well. What is it, 2nd year of a 4yr deal?

Believe they may be shopping him. With about 2 years left on his present contract, they have to find a team capable and willing to take on the contract.

Most coaches give about a 15-20 games grace period. Also gives a chance for the coach to show the owners (who have spent money on these players and wants to see them on the ice) that he's given the higher cost vets their chance.

For the moment I'm biting my tongue because I know it can sometimes be odd at the start of the season.

We'll talk again mid month if Weise is still with DD-Patch(minimal production from them), we've lost a string of games and sekac, bourny are sitting, while Moen is still in the line up. I expect things to change by mid month, should be around the 15 game mark.

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I'm aware it's still early in the year, but the coach started the year with Sekac in the line-up and dropped him pretty quickly despite the fact he played a couple of decent games right before he was benched. Moen, conversely, has been given a pretty long leash considering he hasn't done much this year. Prust is right behind him, but has proven to have a bit more worth over time. The thing with giving these guys time, though, is that they're longstanding vets. We know what they can do. We're not talking about giving a rookie 15-20 games to show what he can do, we're talking about players who have been in the league for a decade. We know these guys, and if any team is looking for help, they know what these guys bring too. There isn't a need to showcase them in the least. I ask myself what line-up gives us the best chance to win, and that line-up includes Sekac and Bournival. The coach made the same mistake last year failing to get Tinordi and Beaulieu into the line-up as he went back to Murray and Bouillon over and over. We're seeing this year that we're having to go to those young guys more, and imagine how much better they could be with an extra year's experience instead of wasting that ice time on two vets with no future here. History is repeating itself here, and Therrien frankly hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt because of how he handled a similar situation last year.

Turning to tonight's game, I actually see us playing one of our best games of the year tonight and I'll go out and make three guesses about how we do:

1. We win convincingly, not just turning in a one-goal squeaker.

2. The Bourque-Galchenyuk-Gallagher line has a big night and scores at least one goal.

3. The Habs' PP scores tonight.

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I'm aware it's still early in the year, but the coach started the year with Sekac in the line-up and dropped him pretty quickly despite the fact he played a couple of decent games right before he was benched. Moen, conversely, has been given a pretty long leash considering he hasn't done much this year. Prust is right behind him, but has proven to have a bit more worth over time. The thing with giving these guys time, though, is that they're longstanding vets. We know what they can do. We're not talking about giving a rookie 15-20 games to show what he can do, we're talking about players who have been in the league for a decade. We know these guys, and if any team is looking for help, they know what these guys bring too. There isn't a need to showcase them in the least. I ask myself what line-up gives us the best chance to win, and that line-up includes Sekac and Bournival. The coach made the same mistake last year failing to get Tinordi and Beaulieu into the line-up as he went back to Murray and Bouillon over and over. We're seeing this year that we're having to go to those young guys more, and imagine how much better they could be with an extra year's experience instead of wasting that ice time on two vets with no future here. History is repeating itself here, and Therrien frankly hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt because of how he handled a similar situation last year.

Turning to tonight's game, I actually see us playing one of our best games of the year tonight and I'll go out and make three guesses about how we do:

1. We win convincingly, not just turning in a one-goal squeaker.

2. The Bourque-Galchenyuk-Gallagher line has a big night and scores at least one goal.

3. The Habs' PP scores tonight.

going out on a limb, aren't you Ted? :P

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Thanks for the GDT, 93 :) . Seems like we're carrying the load.

I don't mind, but you do better work than me. :lol: But everyone's welcome to give it a shot. It's easy and fun! If anyone wants one of the dates I took, just PM me or post in the thread and I'll be happy to let them have it. :)

Evening everyone.

Evening, HRF. CR status?
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