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Habs acquire Sergei Gonchar for Travis Moen


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I like this move just because of term. Moen had an extra year on that deal so we got rid of that problem. If Gonchar doesn't work we've lost nothing cause he's a FA at the end of this year. For that reason alone I like this deal. Even if we send Gonchar down to the minors, I'm all for it. This is like Cole for Ryder (not quite as good but the same idea).

AND I actually think he might be a nice fit and can certainly help our power play. All it cost us was a guy most of us don't really want on the team anyway.

No risk and chance at reward; it's a can't lose deal!

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I like this move just because of term. Moen had an extra year on that deal so we got rid of that problem. If Gonchar doesn't work we've lost nothing cause he's a FA at the end of this year. For that reason alone I like this deal. Even if we send Gonchar down to the minors, I'm all for it. This is like Cole for Ryder (not quite as good but the same idea).

AND I actually think he might be a nice fit and can certainly help our power play. All it cost us was a guy most of us don't really want on the team anyway.

No risk and chance at reward; it's a can't lose deal!

It does eat up most of the cap people were excited about using at or near the deadline, it likely pushes a kid out of the lineup and Gonchar probably won't even play on the 1st PP unit. It's a bit odd. Getting Moen's small salary off the books next year wasn't that big of a concern, I mean he makes 1.8 and worst case we bury him and eliminate 900k of that.

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I'm hoping MB isn't done yet and he's packaging up gonchar with someone else to make another move. Maybe this was the only way to trade moen but the timing on this now stinks. Lots of moen trade rumours early on simply because there wasn't a roster spot for him. Now there is and poof, he's gone. I hope there's more to this. Maybe the only way to get Moen traded was to take Gonchar and now I'm hoping that who ever he's packaged with will only go if Gonchar is taken with him. I dunno....man, this move doesn't make any sense.

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40 years old, soft, offensive Dman. Dont understand. He can help the PP, but he also takes a spot away from Beaulieu/Tinordi.. Really hoping there's more coming.

Likely doing the opposite of the Briere trade. Gonchar is a FA this offseason, while Moen had an extra year on his deal.

I can picture gonchar paired with tinordi and weaver with beaulieu and having the full pairs on some sort of rotation. Clearly MB feels exposed with only 7 D on the roster, 2 of them still developping (and struggling a bit too imo) and 1 of them (weaver) showing signs of wear and tear already.

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This makes no sense. There goes the cap space we had & at least one of our younger dmen to the minors. Did they really want the aging PP specialist that bad.

They have to see him as more than a PP specialist seeing as Markov and Subban generally eat up 1-1:30 of every PP. Also, the problem with our PP isn't who plays the point. It's probably the only thing with our PP that isn't an issue.

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It does eat up most of the cap people were excited about using at or near the deadline, it likely pushes a kid out of the lineup and Gonchar probably won't even play on the 1st PP unit. It's a bit odd. Getting Moen's small salary off the books next year wasn't that big of a concern, I mean he makes 1.8 and worst case we bury him and eliminate 900k of that.

Okay, I'll give you that, if this is not part of a bigger deal we did lose deadline cap space. But (and I know I'm the only one saying it) I'm just happy Moen is gone. I think that sends yet another message to the room.

I think Gonchar can help. Gilbert hasn't exactly been stellar. Tinordi has looked good to me but Beaulieu is certainly not an everyday D right now. I don't think he deserves to be dressed every night and so Gonachar gives us some depth.

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Okay, I'll give you that, if this is not part of a bigger deal we did lose deadline cap space. But (and I know I'm the only one saying it) I'm just happy Moen is gone. I think that sends yet another message to the room.

I think Gonchar can help. Gilbert hasn't exactly been stellar. Tinordi has looked good to me but Beaulieu is certainly not an everyday D right now. I don't think he deserves to be dressed every night and so Gonachar gives us some depth.

Well we're using Gilbert as a shutdown D, he's probably play the most defensive role on the team 5 on 5 so there is no way Gonchar is taking those minutes. Best case he's a 3rd pairing, offensive Dman who plays on the 2nd PP unit. He might bump Weaver and Beaulieu but I'd guess that's about it right now.

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just talking to some friends about this....

it's his final year of his contract. He can pair up on the 2nd power play since he is a "power play specialist". He can team up with one of the younger guys and be a good mentor.

Our plus minus ratio right now is horrible and not too many people are pointing their fingers at Price. So that means people are pointing their fingers at our defense. The young guys are still developing and many of you have already pointed out that Beaulieu hasn't been shining. I'm not terribly impressed with Gilbert and I do think Tinordi is good, but he's not quite there yet. Subban needs a babysitter, markov is obviously not what he used to be and someone pointed out that Weaver looks like he's showing some wear and tare already and I agree.

We've got some holes to fill on defense. Gonchar is a temporary fix....a bit of an expensive one but it's only on the books for this season. Maybe this isn't such a bad move?

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I don't hate the trade but I'm not too sure about it yet. Moen was done here and I'm glad to have the salary freed for next year... but Gonchar probably isn't where you want to be using in season cap space either. Maybe it's a precursor to Emelin being moved and Beaulieu stepping into the top 4.

Or it means a Gonchar-Weaver 3rd pairing and we wait another year for Beaulieu and Tinordi to play.

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just talking to some friends about this....

it's his final year of his contract. He can pair up on the 2nd power play since he is a "power play specialist". He can team up with one of the younger guys and be a good mentor.

Our plus minus ratio right now is horrible and not too many people are pointing their fingers at Price. So that means people are pointing their fingers at our defense. The young guys are still developing and many of you have already pointed out that Beaulieu hasn't been shining. I'm not terribly impressed with Gilbert and I do think Tinordi is good, but he's not quite there yet. Subban needs a babysitter, markov is obviously not what he used to be and someone pointed out that Weaver looks like he's showing some wear and tare already and I agree.

We've got some holes to fill on defense. Gonchar is a temporary fix....a bit of an expensive one but it's only on the books for this season. Maybe this isn't such a bad move?

Well our plus minus ratio likely has more to do with the fact that we're 27th in the league in goals for (per game) than our raw defensive pairings.

If we tried Gonchar in Gilbert's role it would be a massacre, Gilbert has only been OK but he probably gets the most defensive usage of anyone on the team. I don't think the 2 guys playing the point are the issue with the PP so while he makes the 30 seconds of our 2nd unit better, I'm not sure how much that moves the needle. Watching our PP it feels like our issues are more forward and strategy based than Markov and Subban.

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I'm hoping MB isn't done yet and he's packaging up gonchar with someone else to make another move. Maybe this was the only way to trade moen but the timing on this now stinks. Lots of moen trade rumours early on simply because there wasn't a roster spot for him. Now there is and poof, he's gone. I hope there's more to this. Maybe the only way to get Moen traded was to take Gonchar and now I'm hoping that who ever he's packaged with will only go if Gonchar is taken with him. I dunno....man, this move doesn't make any sense.

That's about how I feel, too.

Gonchar should end up in EDM soon...

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So how will the defense pairing look like? Not sure how I feel about this trade.

It seems like, most likely the top 4 remains and Gonchar plays with Weaver.

Tried to get probably means he tried to dump someone like Bourque with term left to get Gonchar who only had 1 year left. They would have given Gonchar away to clear the cap space, I'd guess.

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