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#21 Devante Smith-Pelly 2015


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Devante seems a better fit in a 4th-line role than Sekac would have been happy with... bottom six at best.

Habs save some cap space....

Jiri Sekac $1,442,500 vs. Devante Smith-Pelly $800,000

Sekac's base salary in the NHL was 925k. He might have had bonus clauses included, but those wouldn't have come off the cap this year. The difference in baseline salaries was only 125k though.

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I dont want to spend too much time on the trade since the thread should be about the player but since we closed the trade thread, I wanted to share this.


Reading between the lines of what Bergevin, his staff and others have said, I get the sense that:

- For over a year Bergevin's been trying to find a hard hitting 'power forward.' He believes we have one in McCarron but obviously thats a couple of years away.

- He also is very high on having a natural R-shooter. Im not sure if this is a huge deal (plenty of great RW shoot left and vice versa) but it was important to him.

- In the meantime he looked all year long & no one would part with that type of player - except for older ones past their prime, or those our scouting staff didnt like.

- Bergevin has been targetting DSP for a while. He tried to acquire him at least one other time this year. (one report alluded we tried to do DSP for Bourque+ but that didnt pan out so we just did the bourque salary dump).

- Anaheim was very clear: if they were giving up DSP (who they held in high regard for his potential) they would need a LW coming back. Remember, we are upset because of what Sekac may become but DSP is 22 years old - there's just as much of a component of risk for Anaheim in this deal. More actually as DSP has proven he's at worst a 3rd-4th liner. Patches & Galchenyuk were obviously out so Sekac was the only option left they were interested in.

It may no make the deal any easier to swallow (like many I like DSP but dont love giving up Sekac) but at least it gives some insight into why Bergevin made the deal. He (or at least his staff, whom he trusts) must think highly of DSP and lets hope they are right. I think that under the right circumstances he may do well here. Id ideally like to see him tried at RW with Patches & DD. If he cant keep up/doesnt gel them you move him down the lineup but i have a feeling he will compliment those 2 well & score a lot of Garbage Goals in the process.

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I dont want to spend too much time on the trade since the thread should be about the player but since we closed the trade thread, I wanted to share this.

Reading between the lines of what Bergevin, his staff and others have said, I get the sense that:

- For over a year Bergevin's been trying to find a hard hitting 'power forward.' He believes we have one in McCarron but obviously thats a couple of years away.

- He also is very high on having a natural R-shooter. Im not sure if this is a huge deal (plenty of great RW shoot left and vice versa) but it was important to him.

- In the meantime he looked all year long & no one would part with that type of player - except for older ones past their prime, or those our scouting staff didnt like.

- Bergevin has been targetting DSP for a while. He tried to acquire him at least one other time this year. (one report alluded we tried to do DSP for Bourque+ but that didnt pan out so we just did the bourque salary dump).

- Anaheim was very clear: if they were giving up DSP (who they held in high regard for his potential) they would need a LW coming back. Remember, we are upset because of what Sekac may become but DSP is 22 years old - there's just as much of a component of risk for Anaheim in this deal. More actually as DSP has proven he's at worst a 3rd-4th liner. Patches & Galchenyuk were obviously out so Sekac was the only option left they were interested in.

It may no make the deal any easier to swallow (like many I like DSP but dont love giving up Sekac) but at least it gives some insight into why Bergevin made the deal. He (or at least his staff, whom he trusts) must think highly of DSP and lets hope they are right. I think that under the right circumstances he may do well here. Id ideally like to see him tried at RW with Patches & DD. If he cant keep up/doesnt gel them you move him down the lineup but i have a feeling he will compliment those 2 well & score a lot of Garbage Goals in the process.

If a GM worried about what a player(Sekac) may do down the road he would never make a trade. A GM needs to ask himself if he thinks the player he wants to acquire will help in the here and now. Obviously MB thinks S-P will help now and he is only 22. Heck, with a little bit of luck he could turn out to be the Hab's Lucic without the goonery.

Welcome to the team Devante.

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I dont want to spend too much time on the trade since the thread should be about the player but since we closed the trade thread, I wanted to share this.

Reading between the lines of what Bergevin, his staff and others have said, I get the sense that:

- For over a year Bergevin's been trying to find a hard hitting 'power forward.' He believes we have one in McCarron but obviously thats a couple of years away.

- He also is very high on having a natural R-shooter. Im not sure if this is a huge deal (plenty of great RW shoot left and vice versa) but it was important to him.

- In the meantime he looked all year long & no one would part with that type of player - except for older ones past their prime, or those our scouting staff didnt like.

- Bergevin has been targetting DSP for a while. He tried to acquire him at least one other time this year. (one report alluded we tried to do DSP for Bourque+ but that didnt pan out so we just did the bourque salary dump).

- Anaheim was very clear: if they were giving up DSP (who they held in high regard for his potential) they would need a LW coming back. Remember, we are upset because of what Sekac may become but DSP is 22 years old - there's just as much of a component of risk for Anaheim in this deal. More actually as DSP has proven he's at worst a 3rd-4th liner. Patches & Galchenyuk were obviously out so Sekac was the only option left they were interested in.

It may no make the deal any easier to swallow (like many I like DSP but dont love giving up Sekac) but at least it gives some insight into why Bergevin made the deal. He (or at least his staff, whom he trusts) must think highly of DSP and lets hope they are right. I think that under the right circumstances he may do well here. Id ideally like to see him tried at RW with Patches & DD. If he cant keep up/doesnt gel them you move him down the lineup but i have a feeling he will compliment those 2 well & score a lot of Garbage Goals in the process.

Not to beat a dead horse, but couldn't Sekac have been tried there to see how he fared?

I know I should let this go, but I am still in the grieving process. I think I just need to see this kid play and see that it was all worth it.

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I don't see this trade in terms of giving up on Sekac or replacing him. Smith-Pelly was the type of player management wanted and sometimes you have to give up something good to get something good. The toughness factor was something we lacked for a while and although Sekac had a lot of upside we could risk losing a guy like him to get what we wanted. Its not the Pollock era anymore folks, when we could get talent for next to nothing and fleece other teams....

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Again, DSP may turn out to be a player, but in Anaheim's case, they've had him up and down with the big club for a few years and they've tried him in different roles, including on the 1st line. They have a pretty good idea that he wasn't going to be a fit in their organization. In Sekac's case, he's played 50 NHL games, most of which were on the third line and without much PP time. There is a much higher probability that Sekac has untapped potential than DSP does.

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Anaheim has a few DSP prototypes and we do not. I think he will come out flying tonight. He has a lot of talent, but like others it appears to disappear. This will fill in for some of the physicality we lost with Bourque and hopefully give us the same amount of offence as Sekac was providing. Hopefully the Montreal market is what he needs to get his game together.

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fair first game. after a couple of practices he should have the teams systems down a bit better and be more settled. I don't think he has even made it to montreal yet!

Agreed on both counts! He played pretty well for his first game, and though there's always room to improve like you said he hasn't even had a practice with the team yet.

I'm still not happy about losing Sekac, but on his own merit DSP seems like he'll fit in well

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first impression : meh. honestly didn't do much of anything.......which of course is enough for him to bump eller out of the top 6 but thats a different conversation

game 1 was a reinforcement of the feeling that we gave away the noticeably better player because coach didnt like him, not because it made sense.

anyway we'll see

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nice to see you give him the benefit of the doubt! the guy has not had any real practice with the team just met them in fact he has not had a good skate in three days does not know the teams systems and probably has not slept much since the trade. but he is ready to judge? I think for a first impression taking all that into account he did pretty well in the kind of roll he is called on to play! and as far as the eller bump we often let a new player move around in the lineup when the first play for us.

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With Smith-Pelly, the Habs now have 4 right-hand shot wingers and lately Galchenyuk (a left-hand shot) to play the right side at forward...

Gallagher, Parenteau would normally be offensive players slated 4 the top six while DSP and Weise represent bottom six. If Galchenyuk remains on the right side then someone has to play off-wing, center or sit in the press box.

With Therrien though, where players play is never a given... we witnessed that in DSP's first game. So the impact DSP may have will be varied anywhere from the 1st line to the 4th line. It does not bode well for any right-winger to assume a specific role. That, IMO, may create more confusion than chemistry. And that continues to be the conundrum with this team... constant line juggling.

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nice to see you give him the benefit of the doubt! the guy has not had any real practice with the team just met them in fact he has not had a good skate in three days does not know the teams systems and probably has not slept much since the trade. but he is ready to judge? I think for a first impression taking all that into account he did pretty well in the kind of roll he is called on to play! and as far as the eller bump we often let a new player move around in the lineup when the first play for us.

i do, honestly. my post was negative but like i said its only 1 game. im willing to get behind the guy, and we will see as the games go on what he is really bringing to the table.

on the other hand, the first game i watched sekac i said wow that kid can play, hes gonna be awesome. sekac has a flashy skill set that might amount to doodly squat, but the eye test definitely favours him.

if devo is gonna become a fan favourite it will be for his toughness etc., if the offense is a wash in the long run we win based on that but we will just have to wait and see.

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The thing about DSP is that to be a fan favorite, he's going to have to score some goals too. You can't just be a guy that throws 2-3 hits a game, and calls it a night. Emelin throws a lot of hits, and he's getting a fair amount of flack for not delivering in other areas. Prust hits a decent amount, but he's still a 4th liner. Moen was a hitter, stopped doing it, and pretty much became useless, so he was traded. DSP seems to have more skill than those other guys, but he's going to have to use it if he wants to stick. The Habs are deep with bottom 6 guys, so DSP needs to stick out as a guy who can deliver at both ends, not just be an energy guy.

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