roy_133 Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Subban's nod is well-deserved. I think it should be a race between him and Karlsson, but you never know with the voters. Seems like a race between Doughty and Karlsson based on the voters I've seen talk about their ballot (limited sample). I don't really have a lot of hope PK wins, although I think there's a very strong case he deserves it. I'm glad he was nominated, very deserved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted April 28, 2015 Report Share Posted April 28, 2015 Seems like a race between Doughty and Karlsson based on the voters I've seen talk about their ballot (limited sample). I don't really have a lot of hope PK wins, although I think there's a very strong case he deserves it. I'm glad he was nominated, very deserved Well the nominees are essentially just the three top vote-getters, so PK did something right to earn votes. The three guys who deserved to be nominated got nominated, so I'm happy about that. When you break it down though, Doughty doesn't have the offensive stats the other two guys have and Karlsson doesn't have the possession metric leads the other guys have. You could argue PK is the most complete of the three players. It's funny, because in 2013, those arguing against Subban winning said he didn't play the PK enough and that he earned too many of his points on the PP. Those same people are saying very little about the fact Karlsson did much the same this year. I don't think those things should diminish what Karlsson did this year and I think he's the guy who will win it. But I think when you look at which player did the most with what he was given, Subban is probably the guy who should win it. I also don't have high hopes this will happen because I think the offence-lovers will vote Karlsson and the defence/metrics-lovers will split their vote between Subban and Doughty. Subban would really have to come down the middle and steal votes from both sides to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 FYI,,,,, the newest odds to win the cup are: 2015 Stanley Cup Odds Team Odds New York Rangers 11-4 Montreal Canadiens 13-2 Minnesota Wild 13-2 Chicago Blackhawks 9-2 Anaheim Ducks 9-2 Tampa Bay Lightning 10-1 Calgary Flames 14-1 Washington Capitals 19-2 Detroit Red Wings 25-1 GO WINGS,,,,GO CAPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 If I was personally going to rank the teams in order of how likely they are to win the Cup, I'd put them as 1. New York Rangers 2. Chicago 3. Anaheim 4. Tampa Bay 5. Minnesota 6. Montreal 7. Washington 8. Detroit 9. Calgary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Finalists for the Hart: Price, Ovechkin and Tavares as expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Finalists for the Hart: Price, Ovechkin and Tavares as expected Sheeesh you're quick,, i just heard it on TSN and came to post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Sheeesh you're quick,, i just heard it on TSN and came to post it. that's why they pay me the big bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted April 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Candidates for the Masterton: Dubnyk Hammond Letang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 Well the nominees are essentially just the three top vote-getters, so PK did something right to earn votes. The three guys who deserved to be nominated got nominated, so I'm happy about that. When you break it down though, Doughty doesn't have the offensive stats the other two guys have and Karlsson doesn't have the possession metric leads the other guys have. You could argue PK is the most complete of the three players. It's funny, because in 2013, those arguing against Subban winning said he didn't play the PK enough and that he earned too many of his points on the PP. Those same people are saying very little about the fact Karlsson did much the same this year. I don't think those things should diminish what Karlsson did this year and I think he's the guy who will win it. But I think when you look at which player did the most with what he was given, Subban is probably the guy who should win it. I also don't have high hopes this will happen because I think the offence-lovers will vote Karlsson and the defence/metrics-lovers will split their vote between Subban and Doughty. Subban would really have to come down the middle and steal votes from both sides to win. The interesting thing is that a lot of the time - most of the time actually - players whose teams dont make the playoffs (Doughty) are effectively taken out of the race. Thats not to say they wont get nominations but almost never do they win. I think its impossible to predict who of those 3 will win because i think its going to be very close (and entirely possible that the guy with the most 1st place votes may not even win the award if say, another guy got all of the 2nd place votes of everyone who didnt vote him 1st). My gut tells me that Karlsson wins, which I suppose is fair enough. Even though he doesnt play the PK much, thats not his choice - his first year or so he played quite a bit of PK (before his norris) and did quite well there. He has elite vision & I have no reason to believe he couldnt be great defensively (like a guy like Coffey could have been) but they choose to use him almost exclusively offensively. Im still pulling for subban though, but i think its unlikely he wins again this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted May 1, 2015 Report Share Posted May 1, 2015 ^^ I don't think a guy has to be a regular on the PK to win the Norris, just as I don't think he has to light it up on the PP either. You have all three facets of the game to use and you judge a guy based on his whole performance. Subban was probably the best of the three at ES and Karlsson the best on the PP. As I've said, Subban was neither the best offensive nor defensive defenceman of the three but he's probably the guy who is the best mix of the two and the guy who played in the worst system and did the most for his team. You could argue that some guys might lean to "who put up the best numbers" and vote Karlsson and others might say "who had the best absolute possession numbers" or "who played the most ice time in a meaningful role" and vote Doughty. But Subban has the best relative possession numbers and he's better defensively than Karlsson and better offensively than Doughty... the funny thing is that even those these are the three nominees, all that means is that they were the three guys who got the most points from voting. The fact that there were a number of other candidates tossed around by the media (Weber, Josi, Keith, Giordano, and so on) means that there could be guys who voted offence first and went something like Karlsson, Subban, Keith, Josi,Weber, and then Doughty and others who voted defense first and chose Doughty, Weber, Subban, Keith, Karlsson... that's why I stated that Subban's only change is to break down the middle of the vote like that and hope that the splits see more guys ranking Karlsson and Doughty lower down their lists by a few spots, whereas Subban may consistently stay in the top three of everyone's voting card. Ultimately, I think voters tend to be swayed more heavily by points and minutes played; I don't know why, but in a lot of the media evaluations of D men, those tend to be the two stats that people go on and on about. In that case, Subban's probably cooked, but you just never know. I think he has a shot, I think his shot is better than Doughty's, but I'm not sure he's going to circumvent the hype created for Karlsson and the Sens' late-season push occurring right at the time that voters were asked to cast their votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted May 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Ryan Getzlaf, Andrew Ladd, and Jonathan Toews were announced by the NHL as the three finalists for the Mark Messier Leadership Award on Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Ryan Getzlaf, Andrew Ladd, and Jonathan Toews were announced by the NHL as the three finalists for the Mark Messier Leadership Award on Monday. What a ridiculous award. Let's measure leadership and then vote on who does it best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted May 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 What a ridiculous award. Let's measure leadership and then vote on who does it best... There is no vote,,, the winner is selected by Mark Messier alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 There is no vote,,, the winner is selected by Mark Messier alone. Well I bet he can't just pick one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Well I bet he can't just pick one! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted May 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 The National Hockey League Players' Association (NHLPA) announced today the three finalists for the Ted Lindsay Award: forward Jamie Benn of the Dallas Stars, forward Alex Ovechkin of the Washington Capitals and goaltender Carey Price of the Montreal Canadiens. The Ted Lindsay Award is presented annually to the "Most Outstanding Player" in the NHL, as voted by fellow members of the NHLPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 The National Hockey League Players' Association (NHLPA) announced today the three finalists for the Ted Lindsay Award: forward Jamie Benn of the Dallas Stars, forward Alex Ovechkin of the Washington Capitals and goaltender Carey Price of the Montreal Canadiens. The Ted Lindsay Award is presented annually to the "Most Outstanding Player" in the NHL, as voted by fellow members of the NHLPA. interesting that the players picked Benn over Tavares. I like that they introduced this trophy as we often see different opinions between the players vs. the pro hockey writers association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baby2 Posted May 10, 2015 Report Share Posted May 10, 2015 Price is going to win 4 awards: Jennings, Hart, Vezina, Ted Lindsay. And he deserves it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted June 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 The two-hour primetime awards show will broadcast live at 7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT on NBCSN in the U.S. and Sportsnet in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizardking89 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 The two-hour primetime awards show will broadcast live at 7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT on NBCSN in the U.S. and Sportsnet in Canada. June 24th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 The two-hour primetime awards show will broadcast live at 7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT on NBCSN in the U.S. and Sportsnet in Canada. What day? June 24th! Nice to see someone is on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted June 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 What day? Nice to see someone is on the ball. Google is your friend. Do I have to do all the work around here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Google is your friend. Do I have to do all the work around here? It's the only work you ever do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted June 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 It's the only work you ever do. And it's hard work too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted June 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Seeing as the awards are presented tomorrow, here's a quick primer: HART MEMORIAL TROPHY Awarded to: Player most valuable to his team Who decides: Professional Hockey Writers' Association Finalists: Alex Ovechkin (Washington Capitals), Carey Price (Montreal Canadiens), John Tavares (New York Islanders) VEZINA TROPHY Awarded to: Top goaltender Who decides: NHL general managers Finalists: Devan Dubnyk (Minnesota Wild), Carey Price (Montreal Canadiens), Pekka Rinne (Nashville Predators) JAMES NORRIS MEMORIAL TROPHY Awarded to: Best defenceman Who decides: Professional Hockey Writers' Association Finalists: Drew Doughty (Los Angeles Kings), Erik Karlsson (Ottawa Senators), P.K. Subban (Montreal Canadiens) CALDER MEMORIAL TROPHY Awarded to: Most proficient rookie Who decides: Professional Hockey Writers' Association Finalists: Aaron Ekblad (Florida Panthers), Johnny Gaudreau (Calgary Flames), Mark Stone (Ottawa Senators) TED LINDSAY AWARD Awarded to: Most outstanding player Who decides? Fellow members of the NHL Players' Association Finalists: Jamie Benn (Dallas Stars), Alex Ovechkin (Washington Capitals), Carey Price (Montreal Canadiens) LADY BYNG MEMORIAL TROPHY Awarded to: Player who exhibits the best sportsmanship and gentlemanly conduct combined with a high standard of playing ability Who decides: Professional Hockey Writers' Association Finalists: Pavel Datsyuk (Detroit Red Wings), Jiri Hudler (Calgary Flames), Anze Kopitar (Los Angeles Kings) FRANK J. SELKE TROPHY Awarded to: Forward who best excels in defensive aspects of the game Who decides: Professional Hockey Writers' Association Finalists: Patrice Bergeron (Boston Bruins), Anze Kopitar (Los Angeles Kings), Jonathan Toews (Chicago Blackhawks) JACK ADAMS AWARD Awarded to: Coach who contributes most to his team's success Who decides: NHL Broadcasters' Association Finalists: Bob Hartley (Calgary Flames), Peter Laviolette (Nashville Predators), Alain Vigneault (New York Rangers) BILL MASTERTON MEMORIAL TROPHY Awarded to: Player who best exemplifies perseverance, sportsmanship and dedication to hockey Who decides: Professional Hockey Writers' Association Finalists: Devan Dubnyk (Minnesota Wild), Andrew Hammond (Ottawa Senators), Kris Letang (Pittsburgh Penguins) MARK MESSIER LEADERSHIP AWARD Awarded to: Player who exemplifies great leadership qualities to his team, on and off the ice during the regular season Who decides: Mark Messier, based on suggestions by fans, clubs and NHL personnel Finalists: Ryan Getzlaf (Anaheim Ducks), Andrew Ladd (Winnipeg Jets), Jonathan Toews (Chicago Blackhawks) GENERAL MANAGER OF THE YEAR Awarded to: The best-performing general manager Who decides: The GMs and a panel of NHL executives, print and broadcast media Finalists: Bob Murray (Anaheim Ducks), Glen Sather (New York Rangers), Steve Yzerman (Tampa Bay Lightning) The NO-SURPRISE AWARDS... Maurice "Rocket" Richard Trophy: Washington Capitals wing Alex Ovechkin, the league's only 50-goal man, easily captured his third consecutive and fifth overall trophy as the NHL's most prolific scorer. Art Ross Trophy: A first-time winner, Jamie Benn snatched the award for most points scored (87) William M. Jennings Trophy: The award for fewest goals against often goes to two goaltenders, but this is the first time those gaolies play for different teams. Corey Crawford (2.27 GAA, .924 SVP) and Carey Price (1.96 GAA, .933 SVP) Conn Smythe Trophy: Duncan Keith is the first defenceman to be crowned MVP of the Stanley Cup The COMPLETE-SURPRISE AWARDS King Clancy Memorial Trophy NHL Foundation Player Award Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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