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2015-16 Special Teams - PP + PK


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How many people thought our powerplay would be dismal last year, despite featuring the likes of Markov, Subban, Galchenyuk, and Pacioretty?

How many people predicted the PK would ride Carey Price to great heights of success?

Will the same hold true this year? What do the Habs and Dan Lacroix need to do to get the powerplay back on track? What do they need to do to ensure the PK stays successful even if Price doesn't repeat his all-world performance? And which players should we be throwing on the ice to make that happen?

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Shoot the puck with traffic in front. Teams that get away from this often struggle. I like Gallagher but we need a bigger presence in front. I suggest we work a little harder and draw more penalties as well. We were below average in powerplay minutes compared to most teams.

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Just park Kassian in front of the net and teach him the art of puck deflection. That alone should account for a couple of additional PP goals this year.

Well... The question is, can he learn the art of puck deflection? I suppose he can improve, but he's already 24. Shouldn't he have already mastered puck deflection?

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I wonder why habs didn't start with the diamond formation from the start of the season and then try to break up the crease d-corp of the other team? Shall we play the Umbrella and wait a rebound ? We need to have 2 men in the slot and crush the net i'm so tired of the chase around the course of the Universe around the damned net !

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Habs announcing that JJ Daigneault and Dan Lacroix would be switching special teams roles this year, with JJ now taking over the hapless powerplay and Lacroix inheriting the PK. Seems a bit odd to put a defensive defenceman who became a D coach in charge of the PP. He'll apparently have Craig Ramsay as his mentor, but while it will be hard to do worse than Lacroix, I have trouble thinking Daigneault is the solution to this team's PP woes.

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Habs announcing that JJ Daigneault and Dan Lacroix would be switching special teams roles this year, with JJ now taking over the hapless powerplay and Lacroix inheriting the PK. Seems a bit odd to put a defensive defenceman who became a D coach in charge of the PP. He'll apparently have Craig Ramsay as his mentor, but while it will be hard to do worse than Lacroix, I have trouble thinking Daigneault is the solution to this team's PP woes.

Here's to hoping that Ramsay will take charge and run things from behind the scenes. At least we know that fixing the PP is a priority, but at somepoint, it this isn't resolved, we need to think about maybe replacing an assistant coach or two.

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Here's to hoping that Ramsay will take charge and run things from behind the scenes. At least we know that fixing the PP is a priority, but at somepoint, it this isn't resolved, we need to think about maybe replacing an assistant coach or two.

Or three! Waite is really the only guy who has done anything legitimate to earn his keep. In my view, Therrien, Daigneault, Lacroix, and Jodoin could all walk and I wouldn't care in the least.

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Well. I'm prepared to give the PP 10-15 games, to see if there's any "real" changes. JJ and/or Ramsay, had better get on top of this quickly. I'd like to see more "down low" play along with more movement. This business of "give it to PK, who then gives it to Markov, then back to PK for the one-timer" is getting old. I'm still waiting to see 4 forwards and 1 D.

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Well. I'm prepared to give the PP 10-15 games, to see if there's any "real" changes. JJ and/or Ramsay, had better get on top of this quickly. I'd like to see more "down low" play along with more movement. This business of "give it to PK, who then gives it to Markov, then back to PK for the one-timer" is getting old. I'm still waiting to see 4 forwards and 1 D.

A couple of years ago, the give it to PK mantra worked, because teams didn't know as much about Subban. Now they smother him and take away his shot, and the problem is that no one else stepped up to take advantage of being more open. The forwards in particular were content to play the puck around the half board and take shots when there was no traffic/screen available. The team also had a lot of trouble entering the zone and getting set up, particularly when the Desharnais line was one, as this is one of his big weaknesses.

What the team needs to do is have guys drive at the box and dish off the puck. There need to be more guys moving their feet, not sitting still waiting for passes in pre-defined spots. And there has to be a little more heart going for rebounds and battling in front of the net. Hopefully JJ can inject some amount of life into the PP. The skill players are there, but the system last year was an utter letdown.

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Or three! Waite is really the only guy who has done anything legitimate to earn his keep. In my view, Therrien, Daigneault, Lacroix, and Jodoin could all walk and I wouldn't care in the least.

Agreed, but realistically, I think that one is the most MB will consider replacing at this point. The team would really have to fall off a cliff to change his mind on MT and firing all of his assistants wouldn't exactly endear himself to the coach.

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Habs announcing that JJ Daigneault and Dan Lacroix would be switching special teams roles this year, with JJ now taking over the hapless powerplay and Lacroix inheriting the PK. Seems a bit odd to put a defensive defenceman who became a D coach in charge of the PP. He'll apparently have Craig Ramsay as his mentor, but while it will be hard to do worse than Lacroix, I have trouble thinking Daigneault is the solution to this team's PP woes.

So now we have a line blender and a bench blender. :rolleyes:

Is Bergevin just reluctant to fire anybody? I don't think he has done it yet?

I'm not sure what qualifies Daigneault to be in charge of the PP, other than the fact that he isn't Lacroix. Perhaps with Ramsay's help, but if that's the case, why not just replace Lacroix with Ramsay?

I would prefer to see someone with vision who has had offensive success. Is Oates available? Or whoever ran his 23-26% PP during his 2 years in Washington? :P

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I mentioned Ramsey could be the replacement for Lacroix if things did not work out but this may in some ways be worse for him. The PK was terrrific last year and if Lacroix is unable to maintain that level his time may be short. Putting him in charge of the PK clearly shows they have no confidence in his abilities with the PP. Ironically, having former D-men in charge of the PP may help Subban, Markov and others find ways of getting freed up. Another year of futility on the PP is not going to go over well. I like the fact that they are taking the initiative in attempting to resolve these issues now.

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JJ was pretty good on the pp when he got time on it back in the day so I will wait and see what comes from it. having Semin will change things a bit as well, they looked good out there last night.

PP did look pretty decent last night. Not sure if that's cause of actual changes to the system though or whether it has more to do with using better personnel (Eller, Galchenyuk, Semin as a line) or weak, rusty opposition in the pre-season. What's clear is that the guns are there to make this work... even the 2nd unit should have the likes of Petry, Beaulieu, Pacioretty, Plekanec, etc. There's really no excuse for not being at least 15th in the league or higher.

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A couple of years ago, the give it to PK mantra worked, because teams didn't know as much about Subban. Now they smother him and take away his shot, and the problem is that no one else stepped up to take advantage of being more open. The forwards in particular were content to play the puck around the half board and take shots when there was no traffic/screen available. The team also had a lot of trouble entering the zone and getting set up, particularly when the Desharnais line was one, as this is one of his big weaknesses.

What the team needs to do is have guys drive at the box and dish off the puck. There need to be more guys moving their feet, not sitting still waiting for passes in pre-defined spots. And there has to be a little more heart going for rebounds and battling in front of the net. Hopefully JJ can inject some amount of life into the PP. The skill players are there, but the system last year was an utter letdown.

I'm not a real tactically-minded hockey fan by any means, but this bolded part seems like it's the key in my opinion. We saw it over and over again last year - our players stayed in the same spots on the ice, so their players stayed in the same lanes and easily defended everything. Quick passing is great but if we're only going back and forth along the outside we're not going to have much success.

Moving people around, though, changes the lanes and forces the defence to react. It's why you see things like defencemen 'walking the line' - when you move around it makes them move around, and when they have to move around it leads to a much greater chance of a mistake/opening.

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Not only do the Habs rely on Price to stop pucks but apparently their 3 on 3 strategy is for Price to make the breakout pass :blink:

https://twitter.com/StuCowan1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

passing puck back to goalie Carey Price in 3-on-3 drills and having him make breakout pass. #HabsIO

I believe, (tho I could be wrong), that the idea is that the pass back to Carey, will enable the 2-3 players to make a line change.

Carey is so good at handling the puck that they can do that with confidence.

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I think it's actually a bit of a neat idea to pass it back to Carey. They do it all the time in soccer - as long as everybody on the team is ready for it, why not in hockey? It wouldn't work very well usually with so many players on the ice, but in 3v3 if the other team is backing towards their own zone then I don't see a problem doing this to get a change.

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