HabsRuleForever Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Zach Kassian traded to us for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Prust & a fifth rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Correction: We get the fifth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I think this an okay move. No risk, it could work out. We;re getting younger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollon Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Correction: We get the fifth. No Prust & a 5th rounder was correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 No Prust & a 5th rounder was correct. No I'm reading that WE got the 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 This is a great trade, yet again, from Marc Bergevin. If MB could just get his head around firing his coaching staff and not dumping free agent money on role players, we could be a Cup winner. Here are the positives in my view: - we get the younger player, the bigger player, and the guy with the lower cap hit. Hopefully we use that cap space, combined with what we saved on PAP, for something else. - Prust, as much of a leader and great teammate as he was, was slowing down visibly... he often had trouble skating to keep up with the flow of the game and he seemed to be playing hurt quite a bit. Love his character and love that he sticks up for his teammates, but at 2.5M, he was replaceable. - we grabbed an extra draft pick for free. - Kassian is an RFA after next season, so it's a low-risk move. Kassian was a guy I was interested in drafting a few years ago. He obviously hasn't developed as anticipated, but he's been playing on bad teams. He definitely has the potential to be a 2nd-3rd line RW, and he's probably our 2nd-best RW right away (sadly). The knock on him is his consistency, which brings up echoes of Benoit Pouliot coming here. Hopefully, the fans and media and coaches are more patient with Kassian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 We lose grit in exchange for a younger player who didn't work out in BUffalo and Vancouver Not liking this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted July 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 No Prust & a 5th rounder was correct. No the correction is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 We lose grit in exchange for a younger player who didn't work out in BUffalo and Vancouver Not liking this He brings plenty of grit! He failed because they want him to be a top 6 player and he may not be that.. but he still might suprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 He brings plenty of grit! He failed because they want him to be a top 6 player and he may not be that.. but he still might surprise They or "he" wants to be a top 6 player' either way he now has to deal MT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East_Coast_Juggalo_13 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 They or "he" wants to be a top 6 player' either way he now has to deal MT I think this is a smart trade...Prust is a UFA in 2016 and I don't feel he was worth keeping on beyond this year...Don't get me wrong, I liked the signing of Prust and have enjoyed everything he's brought to the table...But moving forward, we need younger and faster right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Kassian will wear #8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Kassian will wear #8 Hmmmm, ,,,,,,,, coincendence, or by design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Hmmmm, ,,,,,,,, coincendence, or by design? coincidental design not many numbers available Flyers sign Davis Drewiskie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Haven't seen the guy play much but i'll defer to what i'm reading and declare this a good deal. Loved Prust, but we all knew those last two years on his deal were going to be questionable, and he did slow quite a bit this year. All those beatings (giving and getting) have taken a toll IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js2 Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 I like this move. Kassian is younger, bigger, puts up more points per game, hits more, and is probably less of a hot head against goalies. And Bergevin managed to get a 5th rounder out of it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenhhead Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 It's definitely a pretty good deal. Upgrade in speed, age, and size, probably will be 3rd line RW, maybe even 2nd. Prust was OK but we have a solid 4th without him, he was slowing down and getting old... I really liked him, but this makes enough sense. Plus Kassian is cheaper. I think at worst we got another Bourque. But the 5th is a nice capper - we like 5ths. And our 4th is solid without Prusty, anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramcharger440 Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 this may turn out to be a steal and if not it will be a cheap attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyez Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 He has Ryan White's smile.... and I think his jersey too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 love this move and here's why: 1) from a 'safe' standpoint we gave up an ageing, soon-to-be (1yr) UFA player who is terrific defensively but not a whole lot else (aside from 'intangibles'). we got (at worst) a much younger player, RFA in 1 year and while not quite as good defensively he's made big strides in that department the last year and has unquestionably a higher ceiling than prust. So its easily a 'safe trade.' if Kassian ends up being nothing more than a 3rd/4th liner, well so was Prust, so no biggie - and we'll have the opportunity to keep him under contract for many more years if we wish. 2) Everything Prust does from now on will be in decline. Kassian *may* not get better but there's a very very good chance he will. 3) This has the potential to be a huge steal. Kassian is 24 years old. He's played only 1 full NHL season (and parts of 3 others) with a respectable 66 pts in 198 games mostly on the 3rd and 4th lines. (a comparison, Chucky so far has played 193 games and has 104 points). He was drafted 13th overall and the comparison that seems to follow him around is "a more skilled Lucic" which, if he can ever even come close to that will be huge. 4) Oh yeah and if the above wasn't enough, we got a 5th rounder too. Bravo Mr. Bergevin! Out here in BC i see a lot of Canucks games. Kassian is a huge fan favourite. He's huge, strong, fast - and has really really good hands. The only concern may be hockey sense but if his job is to go hard to the net or park himself in the crease on the PP? I think we may be very surprised just how good he will be. There's a definite sense of lack of effort at times but as we all know that can be a tough thing to gauge. It may just as easily be a lack of understanding of linemates or system. Last year he was clearly asked to become more defensively responsible and he did just that, turning into a far better 200 ft player than he has ever been. I am frankly shocked that the Canucks gave up on him already. At 24 how many power forwards have actually come into their own? The only real concern i have is whether he will mesh with Therrien but i have a sneaking suspicion he'll be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob616 Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Was initially really upset to see we had traded for Kassian because I was expecting something like Tinordi going the other way, but I'm really happy with how the trade turned out. Prust was a great player here and I would have been perfectly happy to see him return, but I think this was a very smart deal on all accounts. Even if Kassian doesn't improve at all he's probably a better fit in the top 9 next year than Prust would be, and a bit cheaper to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiLla Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 I really like this deal. A little sad to see Prust leave but Kassian does have the potential to be a bit more of an offensive threat and provides toughness as well. Since we're getting the better player PLUS a 5th rounder ( ) and save valuable cap space on top, I really don't see how we can lose this deal. I've read in the French media that management supposedly wasn't very fond of Prust's choice words for that ref in the playoffs, this might have been a factor as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPPAPUMPED Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 I think that Prust wore-out his welcome in Montreal with his run-in with the ref in the play-offs . As far as Kassian I feel that this trade can turn out quite well for the Habs considering that Therrien has a good way with players that have lost their way as far as their play goes . Kassian needs to motivate himself get the idea that he must be harder,tougher to play against . Kassian for a big body plays far to soft a game for his stature he must utilise his assets & turn all the negatives into positives . Kassian has nice hands around the net a more up-side offensively than Prust but changes are due for Kassian to have success in Montreal . I say that Kassian will turn out to be a good move for MB & the Canucks will be sorry they gave up so soon on the first rounder . Go Habs Go !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest archey Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 love this move and here's why: 1) from a 'safe' standpoint we gave up an ageing, soon-to-be (1yr) UFA player who is terrific defensively but not a whole lot else (aside from 'intangibles'). we got (at worst) a much younger player, RFA in 1 year and while not quite as good defensively he's made big strides in that department the last year and has unquestionably a higher ceiling than prust. So its easily a 'safe trade.' if Kassian ends up being nothing more than a 3rd/4th liner, well so was Prust, so no biggie - and we'll have the opportunity to keep him under contract for many more years if we wish. 2) Everything Prust does from now on will be in decline. Kassian *may* not get better but there's a very very good chance he will. 3) This has the potential to be a huge steal. Kassian is 24 years old. He's played only 1 full NHL season (and parts of 3 others) with a respectable 66 pts in 198 games mostly on the 3rd and 4th lines. (a comparison, Chucky so far has played 193 games and has 104 points). He was drafted 13th overall and the comparison that seems to follow him around is "a more skilled Lucic" which, if he can ever even come close to that will be huge. 4) Oh yeah and if the above wasn't enough, we got a 5th rounder too. Bravo Mr. Bergevin! Out here in BC i see a lot of Canucks games. Kassian is a huge fan favourite. He's huge, strong, fast - and has really really good hands. The only concern may be hockey sense but if his job is to go hard to the net or park himself in the crease on the PP? I think we may be very surprised just how good he will be. There's a definite sense of lack of effort at times but as we all know that can be a tough thing to gauge. It may just as easily be a lack of understanding of linemates or system. Last year he was clearly asked to become more defensively responsible and he did just that, turning into a far better 200 ft player than he has ever been. I am frankly shocked that the Canucks gave up on him already. At 24 how many power forwards have actually come into their own? The only real concern i have is whether he will mesh with Therrien but i have a sneaking suspicion he'll be just fine. In lieu of photographing this report of yours I am just quoting you and saying I really should be getting some sort of Habs jersey. On second thought you are a Hall of Famer already are you not behind that admin label? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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