Habberwacky Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 I may be in the minority here now, but after watching him tear it up on RW, I'm starting to think that he may end up being good there if we find the 1st line center we need. Basically, if we somehow manage to sign Stamkos, or get lucky and win the lottery to draft Matthews, or McCarron excels enough (all fairly long shots). But all I'm saying is, if we get someone to fill the 1st line center gap, I think Galchenyuk could work on his off-wing on the RW, and that solves a big gap we have on that side. It's only optimal if we fill the 1st line Center gap too though. I thought Galchenyuk was distracted at centre (perhaps the defensive zone responsiblities were too much pressure) and has relaxed significantly on the wing. He definitely appears to be having more fun and has become a highly effective winger. He may be his own worst enemy as the argument for putting him at centre will become muddied by this success. I thiink we need to give him another shot at it next year, but we have a much better option now if he struggles. He is still very young and this has to be doing wonders for his confidence. You can add me to the minority because I was saying he needed to be moved from centre around the time they moved him. Ironically if the big M keeps playing centre Mr.Eller may enjoy a place on the wing too. Having so many centres is a definite benefit to the organization as we can always move them to the wing and will always have good face-off men on the ice. I don't think drafting wingers is as effective, because if they are done on the wing they are not likely going to make it as a centre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caperns Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Please, stop the charade, Let Galcheynk center Patches and Gallager for the remaing games, Give them 20 minutes a game and find out if they can be that number one line. Eller is clearly becoming your number two center. I would certainly shop Pleks and a pick or two to get a top 6 ring winger in the off season. Or really reach out for Kyle Okposo, maybe drop NY a draft pick for a chance to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I wonder... will Alex lead the team in goals at the end of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 He's playing amazing hockey right now. Hopefully he stays on the first line and continues to produce. If he can stick he can fill our need for a 1C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnveenie Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 I wonder... will Alex lead the team in goals at the end of the season? I think so, barring injury. Of course Gallagher is not playing and Chucky is questionable for tomorrow's game. They didn't even get a full period together. Because this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Alex is just owning it right now. Watch MT and MB take credit for this at year's end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekHockeyCoach Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Alex is just owning it right now. Watch MT and MB take credit for this at year's end. Nah, he'll probably get traded, he's not a grinder. Doesn't fit into MT's system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 MT had this to say re Chuck after last night's game. “He’s a different player than the one he was at the start of the season. You want to give your players chances, but you don’t want them to forget who they are. That’s why we put him on the wing for awhile -- so he could find his game again. We knew he would play center eventually. Often things come down to a question of timing, and right now the timing -- and the performances -- are good. I don’t regret waiting because it was important for him to grow into the role,” explained head coach Michel Therrien, who initially made Galchenyuk his first line center on Saturday in Winnipeg. “He’s been playing with a lot of confidence since a month ago, and we felt like he was confident enough to test at center again. We didn’t want him to lose his offensive instincts. He’s playing well on both sides of the ice right now, and he’s proving that he’s capable of doing so,” continued the Habs’ bench boss. “We’ve seen some positive flashes in the past, but now we’re seeing the steady quality of play we’ve been looking for.” Bold is nine Ahhhhh,,, MT, we all know that he wouldn't be playing center if DD hadn't been injured. You've been forced to play him at center. The interesting question will be what will you do with DD, when he's able to come back? BTW,,, Chuck has 15 PTs. in 15 career games with Patches. Also,,,, Chuck has 9 goals in the 10 games that DD has been out, or, 9 goals in the last 7 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 BTW,,, Chuck has 15 PTs. in 15 career games with Patches. Also,,,, Chuck has 9 goals in the 10 games that DD has been out, or, 9 goals in the last 7 games. As awesome as it is to see Chucky becoming the talent so many of us were certain he would be it is mind-numbingly-frustrating to see that, surprise surprise, if you give our best centre, our best winger and good offensive minutes, he can blossom into a star. This alone - the fact that the only reason Chucky has been finally given this role is due to injuries - should be enough on its own to get MT fired. Of course it probably wont, but it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncivilengineer Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Should be benched for that terrible affront to the draft lottery positioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnveenie Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Boy, is he ever making MT look silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madpanda Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Wouldnt be surprised if MT puts him on the 3rd line next game , Spread the scoring around will be his reasoning. Ive never seen this level of ignorance when it comes to putting the young players in positions to succeed. Gotta get this guy out , and sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnveenie Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Wouldnt be surprised if MT puts him on the 3rd line next game , Spread the scoring around will be his reasoning. Ive never seen this level of ignorance when it comes to putting the young players in positions to succeed. Gotta get this guy out , and sooner rather than later. Not going to happen now. Maybe if he goes a couple games without a point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs=stanleycup Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Boy, is he ever making MT look silly. The hockey gods be thanked for this brief period without DD in order to show the true worth of Galchenyuk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Boy, is he ever making MT look silly. Agreed but MT does that all on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Boy, is he ever making MT look silly. After Galchenyuk scored his OT goal, the RDS camera panned to Therrien and he had this look on his face of what I would describe as pleasant surprise. It really looked like he was saying to himself "wow, I didn't know Galchenyuk could be this good." Just a complete mis-evaluation of talent by the coaches. Sure, some people want to give Therrien credit for Subban and Galchenyuk, but these guys were good all along. They didn't need to be purposely held back. You don't see McClellan trying to bench McDavid repeatedly or Ottawa telling Karlsson to play it safe and dump it up along the boards all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme-1 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Boy, is he ever making MT look silly. To us, but he's probably looking like a genius to MB. Ironically Galchenyuk may even be saving MT's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnveenie Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 To us, but he's probably looking like a genius to MB. Ironically Galchenyuk may even be saving MT's job. It's a funny paradox. Regardless of which side of the argument you took originally, it will be used to confirm that your opinion was correct. Those who thought MT was doing the right thing will point and say (incorrectly) "Look how good of a job they did patiently developing Galchenyuk" while people like most of us here who were pulling their hair out while watching this unfold will say "He was this good the whole time; all he needed was some more ice time". I would be curious to see if his points per 60 has increased or stayed the same since his ice time was increased dramatically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 It's a funny paradox. Regardless of which side of the argument you took originally, it will be used to confirm that your opinion was correct. Those who thought MT was doing the right thing will point and say (incorrectly) "Look how good of a job they did patiently developing Galchenyuk" while people like most of us here who were pulling their hair out while watching this unfold will say "He was this good the whole time; all he needed was some more ice time". I would be curious to see if his points per 60 has increased or stayed the same since his ice time was increased dramatically. His PP/60 have increased over the past little stretch since Desharnais was out and particularly since he was put back at center. For the season, Galchenyuk now ranks 5th in the league among centers in 5v5 points per 60. As a winger he's about half a point per game behind that, I believe, but still clearly a top line player. There should be zero doubt Galchenyuk can be a #1 center in this league for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 And FWIW, Guy Lafleur, Serge Savard, and Stephane Richer have all come out saying Therrien hasn't managed Galchenyuk well and that he needs to just let him play and give him ice time. If former stars are saying they aren't happy with the coach's handling of his skill players, you can bet Galchenyuk himself can't be too pleased with the lack of ice time and line/position juggling Therrien has given him in his first few years in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 To make matters even worse, its not even like Therrien just decided to move Galchenyuk there. DD was injured, so Eller got bumped up but then Galchenyuk moved to centre & Eller to the wing - which seemed somewhat odd (Therrien himself has said he things Lars is far less effective on the wing) untli we find out that Lars eller has been nursing a mid-body injury for the last couple of weeks (since about the time Galchenyuk was moved there). Eller, most likely, cant take draws (thats why he's back on Plekanec's line tonght) so Therrien was "forced" to play Galchenyuk there. And yet, as others have said, he'll probably get praise from MB for the way he's "developed" him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Once DD is ready , everything will get thrown in disarray as we HAVE to make room for DD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 FACT: Galchenyuk is a natural center. Therrien moves him to wing, unlike natural wings like Scherbak and McCarron, whom the organization tries to turn into centers. FACT: Therrien states Galchenyuk asks not to play center because he can't handle it. Galchenyuk himself states that he prefers to play center. FACT: Galchenyuk has success at center. Therrien shifts him back to wing to accommodate Desharnais, DLR, Danault, and McCarron. FACT: Therrien states Galchenyuk and Pacioretty have no chemistry, an opinion he bases on a 3-game stint using false data. The fact that Galchenyuk is now tearing it up as a center playing with Pacioretty just proves that Therrien has no idea what he is doing in managing this player. The same could be said about how Therrien managed Subban, benching him repeatedly and refusing to play him on the penalty kill for an entire year while Markov still floundered in that role. The more Galchenyuk scores and dominates, the more it looks like Therrien was suppressing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuddyWaterMoose Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 FACT: Galchenyuk is a natural center. Therrien moves him to wing, unlike natural wings like Scherbak and McCarron, whom the organization tries to turn into centers. FACT: Therrien states Galchenyuk asks not to play center because he can't handle it. Galchenyuk himself states that he prefers to play center. FACT: Galchenyuk has success at center. Therrien shifts him back to wing to accommodate Desharnais, DLR, Danault, and McCarron. FACT: Therrien states Galchenyuk and Pacioretty have no chemistry, an opinion he bases on a 3-game stint using false data. The fact that Galchenyuk is now tearing it up as a center playing with Pacioretty just proves that Therrien has no idea what he is doing in managing this player. The same could be said about how Therrien managed Subban, benching him repeatedly and refusing to play him on the penalty kill for an entire year while Markov still floundered in that role. The more Galchenyuk scores and dominates, the more it looks like Therrien was suppressing him. While all of your statements are true, it's impossible to draw an accurate conclusion of cause and effect in this situation. One could easily argue that Galchenyuk is having the success that he is now as a result of Therrien allowing him the time to develop on the wing and gain the confidence needed at the NHL level. I'm not saying this is the case. I'm just saying that it is not so black and white. It's important to remember that Chucky made the immediate jump to the NHL after being drafted and during his draft year he missed the majority of the season due to injury. Perhaps the club wanted to purposefully ease him in to the role given the expectations in the market that he is playing in and his previous time away from the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seth505 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Kid's on fire, I love it. *please don't screw this up MT...* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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