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#13 Alexander Semin 2015-2016


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let me make an optimistic prediction - 23 goals this year !

It completely depends on how he's used. If he's stuffed down the line-up like Briere and PAP were, he won't score much. If he gets to play the top 6 and PP, I think he'll score between 20 and 25 as well.

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I actually am a bit more hopeful than most.

I think our skill level is higher than it was last season and if you keep replacing grinders with talent, eventually Therrien will have no play other than put skilled players together.

Chances are Semin gets prime RW minutes - either with Plekanec, DD, Eller or, hopefully, Galchenyuk. I think there's a decent chance he rebounds back to his Washington days (maybe not 40 goals but 25-30 wouldnt be out of the question).

Time will tell. Im still holding out hope for Patches - Galchenyuk - Semin which i think would be quite a terrific line.

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I actually am a bit more hopeful than most.

I think our skill level is higher than it was last season and if you keep replacing grinders with talent, eventually Therrien will have no play other than put skilled players together.

Chances are Semin gets prime RW minutes - either with Plekanec, DD, Eller or, hopefully, Galchenyuk. I think there's a decent chance he rebounds back to his Washington days (maybe not 40 goals but 25-30 wouldnt be out of the question).

Time will tell. Im still holding out hope for Patches - Galchenyuk - Semin which i think would be quite a terrific line.

I'm optimistic.

I have total faith that Semin will score around 20 - 25 goals. And adding another 20 goal scorer to the team is a great thing, IMO.

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I actually am a bit more hopeful than most.

I think our skill level is higher than it was last season and if you keep replacing grinders with talent, eventually Therrien will have no play other than put skilled players together.

Chances are Semin gets prime RW minutes - either with Plekanec, DD, Eller or, hopefully, Galchenyuk. I think there's a decent chance he rebounds back to his Washington days (maybe not 40 goals but 25-30 wouldnt be out of the question).

Time will tell. Im still holding out hope for Patches - Galchenyuk - Semin which i think would be quite a terrific line.

From the nhl.com write-up on him:

"Bergevin said he has spoken to coach Michel Therrien about Semin and expects he can get the most out of him, as Therrien has with other players from similar backgrounds."

Have to think that conversation went something like "He's a former 40 goal scorer; you're not burying him on the third line, got it?"

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Have to think that conversation went something like "He's a former 40 goal scorer; you're not burying him on the third line, got it?"

Therrien will bury him on the forth line! :P

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Semin will be fine. i think around 20 goals or so should be easy for him as i think the players he will be playing with should be more in tune with his style of play and we have a few people on the team that speak his language which should help as well as he has limited english even after all these years. i can see him clicking with Subby Marky and Petry on the pp with some of our better forwards i look forward to a much better pp this year as he raises our skill level a fair bit. 5 on 5 it will depend on how bad he wants another nhl contract that is up to the level he can play at.

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He had a bad year with a team full of players that had a bad year. I don't know how much better our offense is than Carolina, but I would hope it will help him out at least a little bit. He is certainly an upgrade from P.A. and the contract is solid even if he turns out bad. But if he becomes a 20+ goal scorer for the 1 million we're paying him, Bergevin will look like a genius!

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Listening to the phone interview conducted by Habs TV, he sounds.....well...lazy -_- . Maybe it's the off-season.

His skills are not in doubt. It's his work ethic and motivation I'll be watching. More importantly, can he endear himself sufficiently to MT and become a favourite ;) ? If (hopefully) yes, he gets unlimited games on the top line to show how he can contribute. If not, he gets "Sekac'ed" or "Eller'ed" :lol: !

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Listening to the phone interview conducted by Habs TV, he sounds.....well...lazy -_- . Maybe it's the off-season.

His skills are not in doubt. It's his work ethic and motivation I'll be watching. More importantly, can he endear himself sufficiently to MT and become a favourite ;) ? If (hopefully) yes, he gets unlimited games on the top line to show how he can contribute. If not, he gets "Sekac'ed" or "Eller'ed" :lol: !

What was lazy about it? (Genuine question, I haven't heard the interview :))

Personally I'm of the same mind as Turcotte and others above. He had a bad year on a bad team, and even that bad year wasn't absolutely terrible from an advanced stats standpoint. Call it wishful thinking if you will, but I really do expect him to bounce back this year. Not 40 goals again, no, but I could see 20 being a reasonable and attainable goal. And getting that kind of production at that salary in today's NHL is no small feat.

I also actually expect that Therrien will give him a decent chance to show his stuff on a top line. Again, maybe it's wishful thinking, but the biggest knock on our team last year in both the regular season and the playoffs was that we couldn't score. MB got rid of Parenteau before bring in Semin, so to me Semin has obviously been brought in to boost our offense. It would be crazy if we didn't see him get a chance to show what we could do.

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What was lazy about it? (Genuine question, I haven't heard the interview :))

Personally I'm of the same mind as Turcotte and others above. He had a bad year on a bad team, and even that bad year wasn't absolutely terrible from an advanced stats standpoint. Call it wishful thinking if you will, but I really do expect him to bounce back this year. Not 40 goals again, no, but I could see 20 being a reasonable and attainable goal. And getting that kind of production at that salary in today's NHL is no small feat.

I also actually expect that Therrien will give him a decent chance to show his stuff on a top line. Again, maybe it's wishful thinking, but the biggest knock on our team last year in both the regular season and the playoffs was that we couldn't score. MB got rid of Parenteau before bring in Semin, so to me Semin has obviously been brought in to boost our offense. It would be crazy if we didn't see him get a chance to show what we could do.

I'd be happy with 15 goals.

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There is no doubt in my mind this guy has some skills capable of making your jaw drop. It's his motivation that will be questioned here in Montreal. He won't have the bennifit of hiding like he could in Washington and Carolina. If he plays like a 1 million dollar player, the honeymoon won't last long i fear.

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There is no doubt in my mind this guy has some skills capable of making your jaw drop. It's his motivation that will be questioned here in Montreal. He won't have the bennifit of hiding like he could in Washington and Carolina. If he plays like a 1 million dollar player, the honeymoon won't last long i fear.

He won't have the ability to hide in a media or PR sense, no, but I think he will be able to hide a little more on the ice. He's getting paid a million to play here - yes we all hope we will do well, but we're not looking for him to single-handedly carry our offense like they were when they signed him to his huge contract in Carolina. It will actually be a bit more like it was in Washington - Patches is going to be the focus like Ovechkin was.

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There is no doubt in my mind this guy has some skills capable of making your jaw drop. It's his motivation that will be questioned here in Montreal. He won't have the bennifit of hiding like he could in Washington and Carolina. If he plays like a 1 million dollar player, the honeymoon won't last long i fear.

I think he'll be motivated just by the atmosphere in the Bell Center but he also needs to do something right off the bat to get the fans behind him. How he does on the road is another matter.

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The guy has been a 40-goal scorer before. He's put up over 30 three times, so he's not a fluke. And last year, he potted 22 goals in 65 games, which would equate to 28 over an 82-game season. The number of Canadiens who scored at that pace or better last year: one. Max Pacioretty. Semin eclipsed the offensive output of every other guy we had in our line-up, so the offensive talent is there.

The question I'll pose is this... would you rather have a guy who looks lazy or who's enigmatic but who scores 25-30 goals or would you rather have a guy who works hard and grinds it out but scores 10-12 (like a Prust, a Weise, or a DSP)? Personally, I'll take the guy who puts up goals.

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The guy has been a 40-goal scorer before. He's put up over 30 three times, so he's not a fluke. And last year, he potted 22 goals in 65 games, which would equate to 28 over an 82-game season. The number of Canadiens who scored at that pace or better last year: one. Max Pacioretty. Semin eclipsed the offensive output of every other guy we had in our line-up, so the offensive talent is there.

The question I'll pose is this... would you rather have a guy who looks lazy or who's enigmatic but who scores 25-30 goals or would you rather have a guy who works hard and grinds it out but scores 10-12 (like a Prust, a Weise, or a DSP)? Personally, I'll take the guy who puts up goals.

Even if he's on the ice for more goals against than for? If Semin turns in a +/- that's truly positive I'll be quite happy but if he's a negative I'll be questioning his work ethic. All this I guess will be determined by whoever else he is on the ice with.

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Even if he's on the ice for more goals against than for? If Semin turns in a +/- that's truly positive I'll be quite happy but if he's a negative I'll be questioning his work ethic. All this I guess will be determined by whoever else he is on the ice with.

Well Semin's been a plus player in 6 of his last 7 seasons, the only exception being last year when he played on a pretty awful Carolina team. He's also been a positive Corsi player at ES in every single one of his ten seasons in the NHL. His Corsi of 55.8% last year was superior to every single regular in the Habs line-up last year. So I have zero concerns about Semin's production nor his relative offence-to-defence ability. How he fares within Therrien's system is another question, but the player himself is no worse than anyone else we already have.

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What was lazy about it? (Genuine question, I haven't heard the interview :))

Well, he sounded lethargic as if uninterested in the whole exercise. Go to Habs TV link, click on Quick Hits and search for the interview. I don't know if it's because English is not his native language or it's just his laid back attitude. But if you listen to the interview, you can tell even the phone-in callers themselves gave up engaging him further after receiving flaky answers.

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Even if he's on the ice for more goals against than for? If Semin turns in a +/- that's truly positive I'll be quite happy but if he's a negative I'll be questioning his work ethic. All this I guess will be determined by whoever else he is on the ice with.

Well Semin's been a plus player in 6 of his last 7 seasons, the only exception being last year when he played on a pretty awful Carolina team. He's also been a positive Corsi player at ES in every single one of his ten seasons in the NHL. His Corsi of 55.8% last year was superior to every single regular in the Habs line-up last year. So I have zero concerns about Semin's production nor his relative offence-to-defence ability. How he fares within Therrien's system is another question, but the player himself is no worse than anyone else we already have.

To add to Ted's point, I posted an article in the thread when he first became a Hab that showed that the save percentage of goalies while he was on the ice last year was .880. That's just... really bad. You're not going to have anything close to a positive +/- getting that sort of goalie support.

Despite how lazy he might 'look', it turns out that the guy plays really good defence.

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