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2015-2016 Training Camp and Pre-Season


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This is where we discuss training camp and pre-season matters.

I'll start with this:

Fans invited to attend the Canadian Tire Red vs White scrimmage at the Bell Centre.

In preparation for the team’s preseason schedule, the Canadiens and Canadian Tire are pleased to invite all fans to attend the Canadian Tire Red vs White intrasquad scrimmage on Sunday, September 20, 2015 at the Bell Centre. Doors will open at 11:30 a.m. and puck drop is set for 1 p.m. All fans attending the game will enjoy a free hot dog with chips and a soft drink or bottled water. Details can be found => http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=777951&navid=DL|MTL|home

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Here's the Pre-season games.

SEPT. 22, 2015 MAPLE LEAFS CANADIENS 7:30 P.M. BELL CENTRE - MONTREAL
SEPT. 24, 2015 CAPITALS CANADIENS 7:30 P.M. BELL CENTRE - MONTREAL
SEPT. 25, 2015 BLACKHAWKS CANADIENS 7:30 P.M. BELL CENTRE - MONTREAL
SEPT. 26, 2015 CANADIENS MAPLE LEAFS 7:30 P.M. AIR CANADA CENTRE - TORONTO
SEPT. 28, 2015 PENGUINS CANADIENS 7:00 P.M. VIDEOTRON CENTRE - QUEBEC
OCT. 1, 2015 SENATORS CANADIENS 7:30 P.M. BELL CENTRE - MONTREAL
OCT. 3, 2015 CANADIENS SENATORS 7:00 P.M. CANADIAN TIRE CENTRE, OTTAWA
I wonder if these will be incorporated into the GDT? :rolleyes:
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Therrien's newest idea ... a full line of T(h)omaseses. (Fleischman - Plekanec - Thomas). :D

Seriously though, we're getting a little crowded as it is. If we were to sign him, I would hope it is followed up by trading some depth for some quality.

Trying him out doesn't hurt, it's the decisions we have to make when he earns a contract that could be a concern.

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Ya know, with the signings of Semin and Fleischmann (PTO contract), we have a whole slew of NHLers in camp. When will we be seeing our AHLers graduate from the Icecaps? The likes of Tinordi, Pateryn, Bournival, Andrighetto, Hudon, and Carr, will all be fighting for a job with the Habs against odds that don't favour them.

You might say that it's to find the best possible players. That's all well and good, but will sending some, (if not all), back to the minors and junior, help their development? Sure, there will be call-ups due to injuries, but then they will be sent down as soon as the player returns from their injuries. If, after 2-3 years in the minors, MB hasn't figured it out about which of those players he wants on his team, then "somebody" hasn't been doing their homework.

IMO, MB had better find out quick what he is going to do with the players that have to clear waivers to be sent down. He will have only 2 choices for those players (if they're not in his plans), either trade them or lose them to waivers for nothing.

JM2C

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Ya know, with the signings of Semin and Fleischmann (PTO contract), we have a whole slew of NHLers in camp. When will we be seeing our AHLers graduate from the Icecaps? The likes of Tinordi, Pateryn, Bournival, Andrighetto, Hudon, and Carr, will all be fighting for a job with the Habs against odds that don't favour them.

You might say that it's to find the best possible players. That's all well and good, but will sending some, (if not all), back to the minors and junior, help their development? Sure, there will be call-ups due to injuries, but then they will be sent down as soon as the player returns from their injuries. If, after 2-3 years in the minors, MB hasn't figured it out about which of those players he wants on his team, then "somebody" hasn't been doing their homework.

IMO, MB had better find out quick what he is going to do with the players that have to clear waivers to be sent down. He will have only 2 choices for those players (if they're not in his plans), either trade them or lose them to waivers for nothing.

JM2C

Like I mentioned before, maybe most of our prospects aren't as good as we thought they would be. On another note, competition in camp is a good thing.

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We are already putting 5 players on waivers to start the season.

Make it 6 if DLR stays up.

Make it 7 if Fleischman is signed.

Put 1 more player on waivers for each prospect that makes the roster.

Players that aren't likely to be sent down (19/23 spots):

DD - Plekanec - Eller - Galchenyuk - Gallagher

Kassian - DSP - Mitchell - Weise - Semin

Subban - Markov - Petry - Beaulieu - Gilbert

Pacioretty - Emelin - Price - Tokarski

Players who would need to clear waivers:

Flynn - Bournival - Tinordi - Ellis - Fleischman

Pateryn - Thomas - Holloway - Barberio - Dumont

Waiver exempt:

DLR

Ellis, Dumont, Barberio, Holloway, and DLR are probably the easiest to send down.

We only have room for 4 out of Bournival, Flynn, Pateryn, Tinordi, Thomas, and Fleischman (if signed).

After that, we are trading 1 for 1 from the roster for each prospect.

That's quite a barrier to any prospect making the roster out of camp, as all of those players are candidates to be claimed by another team.

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Well Habs lines at practice today were

Eller-Galchenyuk-Semin

Fleischmann-Plekanec-Gallagher

DLR-Desharnais-Weise

Flynn-Mitchell-Kassian

Hudon-Andrighetto-DSP

Carr-McCarron-Scherbak

Bournival and Pacioretty remain injured. On D, Markov and Subban were reunited, Petry skated with Emelin, and Gilbert was out with the flu.

Right off the bat, a number of glaring concerns...

1. Eller on the wing. I'm somewhat torn about this. Assuming Pacioretty takes the spot from Fleischmann (and indications from camp today were that Eller would remain at LW going into the season and remain in the top 6), then I'm happy that we actually have our top 6 forwards playing in the top 6 (Pleks, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Pacman, Eller, and Semin). However, we don't have our three best centers playing center, and if two of your centers are the inexperienced Galchenyuk and the defensively-compromised Desharnais, it's going to leave a huge burden on Plekanec to carry the two-way load. Eller had really tough match-ups and zone starts last year and fared very well with them. I don't know that Galchenyuk or DD is going to pick up that slack, and I really don't want a 4th line playing big minutes just so we have a defensively-capable center out there. I think there were better solutions than moving Eller to wing.

2. That third line... it's a given that it's hard to fit Desharnais into this line-up. If he's in the top 6, he's taking minutes away from better players. If he's not in the top 6, he can be somewhat effective with easier match-ups, but that probably requires him to have halfway decent offensive players surrounding him. DLR and Weise are not those guys. Weise scored a bunch of goals from the crease area last year, but he's not going to be finishing DD's passes in any great capacity and DLR was pretty snake-bit offensively from start to finish. I'd rather see DD paired with Kassian or one of the younger scorers (or Fleischmann if he's demoted down). The thought is that Pacioretty likely moves into the Plekanec line LW spot, but perhaps MT is fooling the media and sees Pacman stepping into that DLR spot, to be reunited with Weise and DD. It would give us three pretty decent scoring lines, albeit it doesn't make the best use of Pacioretty.

3. While I see Kassian as being wasted on the 4th line (particularly behind Weise), I see Flynn's being there as being too high a ranking for him. I'd much rather see Bournival, Hudon, Andrighetto, Thomas, or so on get a shot over Flynn. Flynn didn't impress me much last year and I don't see him having a future here, so I think we should have just moved on. If he's still here, he should be a 13th or 14th forward to sub in in the event of injury, nothing more.

4. Subban and Markov together... this was the season to reduce Markov's role and ease up his minutes so he doesn't wear out by season's end. Beaulieu needs to be given the opportunity to step into the 1st pairing role and Petry would be an ideal partner for Markov. Therrien seems set on sticking with the same old same old instead of responding to his team's weaknesses with change.

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Players who would need to clear waivers:

Flynn - Bournival - Tinordi - Ellis - Fleischman

Pateryn - Thomas - Holloway - Barberio - Dumont

That's quite a barrier to any prospect making the roster out of camp, as all of those players are candidates to be claimed by another team.

Of those players I probably wouldn't want to lose Tinordi , Pateryn and maybe Bournival the rest are 3rd / 4th liners who are replaceable

And if another team claims a player, doesn't that team have to keep them on their roster ?

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Red vs. White Scrimmage - September 20

MONTREAL – Team White posted a 6-2 win over Team Red in the Canadian Tire Red vs. White Scrimmage on Sunday afternoon at the Bell Centre.

Daniel Carr opened the scoring for Team Red at the 5:41 mark of the first period, capping a strong individual effort by stuffing the puck past Team White starter Dustin Tokarski.

Tomas Fleischmann put Team Red up by two goals in the second period with a penalty shot tally at 5:46, before both Alex Galchenyuk and Sven Andrighetto lit the lamp at 6:48 and 12:15 respectively for Team White to tie things up 2-2.

Galchenyuk gave Team White a 3-2 lead just 1:48 into the third period, jumping on a loose puck and beating a helpless Zachary Fucale in close. Lars Eller made it 4-2 for Team White, before Christian Thomas scored Team White's fifth straight goal and upped his squad's lead to 5-2. Dale Weise added Team White's sixth goal late in the final frame.

Carey Price, who started the game for Team Red, made 15 saves on 16 shots against.

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17 players were sent down today, nobody we really expected to make the roster out of camp.

You have to think that if Fleischmann isn't signed that he has done enough to get some attention from another team.

Condon may get the full game against Toronto tonight. He may indeed be pushing to take the backup role.

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Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin announced on Saturday morning that 17 players have been cut from training camp and reassigned to the American Hockey League’s St. John’s IceCaps, including goalie Zachary Fucale.

The other players headed to St. John’s are: Mac Bennett, Tim Bozon, Connor Crisp, Stefan Fournier, Dalton Thrower, Travis Brown, Edward Pasquale, Nicolas Blanchard, Angelo Miceli, Jamal Watson, Ryan Johnston, Brett Lernout, Mark MacMillan, Brandon McNally, Markus Eisenschmid and Josiah Didier. The 17 players will head to Newfoundland on Sunday for the IceCaps training camp. The IceCaps will play three games against the Toronto Marlies on Oct. 1, 2 and 4.

That leaves 40 players still at the Canadiens camp (24 forwards, 13 defensemen and three goaltenders).

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17 players were sent down today, nobody we really expected to make the roster out of camp.

You have to think that if Fleischmann isn't signed that he has done enough to get some attention from another team.

Condon may get the full game against Toronto tonight. He may indeed be pushing to take the backup role.

Condon doesn't have to clear waivers to be sent down but Tokarski does. We shall see.

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9 more players sent down today.

Thomas, Dumont, Ellis, and Holloway, will have to clear waivers. Previously I would have expected Thomas or Holloway to garner some interest, but thanks to poor preseason showings (or not showings, might be more accurate), they should be relatively safe.

McCarron was also sent down.

The others were Carr, Gregoire, Dietz, and Hanley.

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