HabsRuleForever Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Height: 6-1 Weight: 213 Birthdate: 1993-01-23 Position: Left Wing No: 19 Shoots: Left The Montreal Canadiens have traded forward Christian Thomas to the Arizona Coyotes for forward Lucas Lessio.The two players were teammates for the OHL Oshawa Generals for two seasons from 2010-12.The 22-year-old Lessio has seven goals and five assists in 24 games for the AHL Springfield Falcons this season. He played in 26 NHL games for the Coyotes last year and had two goals and three assists.Thomas, 23, skated in five games with the Canadiens this season and had two assists. The son of former NHLer Steve Thomas has seven goals and seven assists in 18 games for the AHL St. John's IceCaps.Thomas has three points in 26 career NHL contests with Montreal and the New York Rangers. He was a second-round pick of the Rangers in 2010. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habberwacky Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 I like this move. We have plenty of small speedy playmakers and some are better than Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 He's listed at 6'1, and anywhere from 197# to 212#. Interesting little factoid,,,he was the Oshawa General’s second-leading scorer behind Rangers’ prospect Christian Thomas. Talent Analysis Lessio is an offensively gifted winger with good speed and puck skills. He has an athletic build and possesses the ability to play either a power game or a finesse one. From the Hockey News: Scouting Report Assets: Has good size and pretty good offensive upside. Plays a straight-ahead game and is good at working the puck down low in the corners. Is unafraid of the physical game. Flaws: Must continue to work on his two-way play and passing skills in order to maximize his NHL potential. Also could stand to shoot the puck more often. Career Potential: Solid, non-flashy winger with upside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 Interesting, Did anyone hear of a rumour that Thomas and Nathan Beaulieu were out late partying last week . Nate was a scratch for the Carolina game and Thomas ' last game was Dec 9 against Boston. Pat Hickey was on Leafs Lunch and Jeff O'Neill asked but he didn't get an answer one way or the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicochetII Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I like this move. We have plenty of small speedy playmakers and some are better than Thomas. I do as well, for the same reason. However ... He's listed at 6'1, and anywhere from 197# to 212#. Interesting little factoid,,,he was the Oshawa General’s second-leading scorer behind Rangers’ prospect Christian Thomas. Talent Analysis Lessio is an offensively gifted winger with good speed and puck skills. He has an athletic build and possesses the ability to play either a power game or a finesse one. From the Hockey News: Scouting Report Assets: Has good size and pretty good offensive upside. Plays a straight-ahead game and is good at working the puck down low in the corners. Is unafraid of the physical game. Flaws: Must continue to work on his two-way play and passing skills in order to maximize his NHL potential. Also could stand to shoot the puck more often. Career Potential: Solid, non-flashy winger with upside. Any time I see things like "good size, slightly physical, non-flashy, north-south player", I inwardly cringe. That basically means he's going to make multiple appearances in the top 6, even if/after it becomes evident that he is no more than a bottom 6 forward. I should be excited about his potential, but that seems to carry much less weight with current management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 It seems he grew up a leaf fan,,, been one all his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 DAnny Kristo for Lessio. Kristo is playing in the minors for ST Louis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I didn't like the Kristo for Thomas trade for two reasons: 1. We needed wing help right away that year and whereas Kristo might have been able to help us, Thomas was further away. 2. We had a surplus of smaller forwards, and adding Thomas didn't really fit with the other players we had in our system. We've seen this year how hard it has been for the Habs to find Thomas a job. They have Gallagher, Desharnais, Flynn, Byron, Andrighetto, Hudon, Scherbak, etc. These are all smaller players with speed and skill, and as much as you can take flyers on smaller players and sometimes find some diamonds in the rough, you can't fill out a line-up with small players and expect to win. Yes, you need skill. But you also need some size, especially come playoff time when the league rules change and the refs allow bigger players to mug smaller players pretty freely. So while I know very little about Lessio, this trade is not a loss in any way. The fact is that Thomas wasn't going to crack this line-up. Maybe Lessio never cracks it either, but he has a better shot at fitting in than Thomas does. So it's at worst a wash and at best we find a guy who may be useful over the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bow2kingsalsa Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 I didn't like the Kristo for Thomas trade for two reasons: 1. We needed wing help right away that year and whereas Kristo might have been able to help us, Thomas was further away. 2. We had a surplus of smaller forwards, and adding Thomas didn't really fit with the other players we had in our system. We've seen this year how hard it has been for the Habs to find Thomas a job. They have Gallagher, Desharnais, Flynn, Byron, Andrighetto, Hudon, Scherbak, etc. These are all smaller players with speed and skill, and as much as you can take flyers on smaller players and sometimes find some diamonds in the rough, you can't fill out a line-up with small players and expect to win. Yes, you need skill. But you also need some size, especially come playoff time when the league rules change and the refs allow bigger players to mug smaller players pretty freely. So while I know very little about Lessio, this trade is not a loss in any way. The fact is that Thomas wasn't going to crack this line-up. Maybe Lessio never cracks it either, but he has a better shot at fitting in than Thomas does. So it's at worst a wash and at best we find a guy who may be useful over the next few years. What? I don't mean to be a stickler, but Scherbak is listed 6'1 204. He was 6'2 at training camp, so who knows but still he's bigger than lessio and definitely not in the same ilk that the players mentioned above are. I do agree on the trade. It was a nice move. I'm still holding to the hope that I can post in a thread regarding to a Desharnais trade for a normal/good sized player who plays a skilled crash and bang with a scoring touch, similar to Leclair and then my dream is to see Mccarron play the 3rd line center position. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted December 31, 2015 Report Share Posted December 31, 2015 1 goal and 3 assists in 4 games with St. John's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted January 31, 2016 Report Share Posted January 31, 2016 Recalled today. First chance at a stint with the Habs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 Not sure why Lessio's getting the call. 3 goals and 6 assists in 18 games. I feel like there are probably some more deserving LWers in St. John's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 It's the MT madness , call up some youngster He's all giddy to play in the NHL and gives it his all for 2 or 3 games, or less if MT sits after his 1st shift , then the team realizes he's not a top six player and send him down Repeat , with a different player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 The Habs are clutching at straws looking for a messiah to take them to the promised land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 The Habs are clutching at straws looking for a messiah to take them to the promised land. I don't think that's the case. It seems like the team has a habit of just choosing a random forward, giving them a couple of games, and returning them to the AHL. It's fine, I suppose, as a reward for someone who's working hard in St. John's, but I just don't see Lessio as even being part of any short or long-term solution in Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I just don't see Lessio as even being part of any short or long-term solution in Montreal. imho he has a decent chance at being a full time 3rd line winger. He's got that potential at least & nothing saying he wont at least reach it. Its very unlikely he's top 6 mateiral - ever - though so I agree, the timing makes very little sense other than our usual "lets give the kids a few games to get a taste for the NHL move" - which is all good and fine but why now? Wouldnt you want to ice your 12 best forwards? I cant see him being a better choice than some that are left down in the minors. Maybe he has a big jar of: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I don't think that's the case. It seems like the team has a habit of just choosing a random forward, giving them a couple of games, and returning them to the AHL. It's fine, I suppose, as a reward for someone who's working hard in St. John's, but I just don't see Lessio as even being part of any short or long-term solution in Montreal. I don't recall the Habs ever calling up so many different players from the minors as they have this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted February 1, 2016 Report Share Posted February 1, 2016 I don't recall the Habs ever calling up so many different players from the minors as they have this year. In the words of Michel Therrien, when you don't have quality scorers, you have to go on a gut feeling and plug different players in for 2-3 games at a time to see if you guessed right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckPundit Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 I don't recall the Habs ever calling up so many different players from the minors as they have this year. Haha, the organization can't be accused of not giving young players "development time" by icing them on the NHL stage , eh? [sarcasm fully intended] Pity the selection choices are based solely on the coach's whims & fancies. Nobody asked why Holloway, McCarron, Hudon or even Tinordi (before he was traded) didn't get more opportunities ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs=stanleycup Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 In the words of Michel Therrien, when you don't have quality scorers, you have to go on a gut feeling and plug different players in for 2-3 games at a time to see if you guessed right. Further proof that this coach needs to GO! Perhaps he should be given an opportunity at the AHL level where he can freely experiment with his 'gut' feelings, grinder theories etc, instead of dragging this noble organization and team to the depths of disaster. While he's at it, he could take his humble servant, Bergevin with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Was there any update on his injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Was there any update on his injury? Supposedly might be back soon, as early as this weekend. Sounds like the injury isn't as bad as first thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Supposedly might be back soon, as early as this weekend. Sounds like the injury isn't as bad as first thought. Thanks Ted. That's good to hear. Like you had commented previously, a serious injury for Lessio could have ended any shot of him making the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Thanks Ted. That's good to hear. Like you had commented previously, a serious injury for Lessio could have ended any shot of him making the NHL. I hate to burst your bubble, JR, but, "Habs announce Lucas Lessio absence of 2-3 weeks with lower body injury." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I hate to burst your bubble, JR, but, "Habs announce Lucas Lessio absence of 2-3 weeks with lower body injury." Well. 2-3 weeks isn't so bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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