jennifer_rocket Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/report-p-k-subbans-name-has-come-up-in-trade-talks-montreal-canadiens-marc-bergevin-tva-louis-jean/ Either Molson would have to veto or it ... or MB would join Rejean Houle as one of the two most hated GM's in my books and hopefully a lot of fans The fans are probably already starting to have a strong dislike for MB for his failure to do anything productive this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsAlways Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 The fans are probably already starting to have a strong dislike for MB for his failure to do anything productive this season. True, but I do like MB and think he can redeem himself ... my impression is he's a smart guy and makes for the most part shrewd moves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Trading PK (as terrible as that may sound) should only be considered if the return is a win win for us. I can't envision too many scenarios where that happens. Kicking the tires is what any GM should be doing, but he better make damn sure he's not the loser in the deal. If the return was a McDavid or a Hall++,,,, that would get my attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsAlways Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Trading PK (as terrible as that may sound) should only be considered if the return is a win win for us. I can't envision too many scenarios where that happens. Kicking the tires is what any GM should be doing, but he better make damn sure he's not the loser in the deal. If the return was a McDavid or a Hall++,,,, that would get my attention. PK is a commodity you simply don't trade. Top 10, arguably top-5 dman in the league ... You don't get another one of those anytime soon and you rarely will get one of those through a trade. Sure McDavid would do it, but not Hall ... we have Patches on LW and while Hall is an upgrade it's not enough of an upgrade when considering you're losing a guy who's playing 25-30mins a night and leading your team in pts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsAlways Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Louis Jean "“There is no question that the captain, Max Pacioretty, and Subban are not best friends,” Jean told Hockey Central at Noon Friday. “He’s a guy that does rub some the wrong way.” To me, given Patches performance, given how he gave up on that play, given how he has 1 goal in his last 12g when we needed him most, given he's a negative player during that stretch as well ... Well I'd be way more comfortable with us trading Patches than Subban Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 PK is a commodity you simply don't trade. Top 10, arguably top-5 dman in the league ... You don't get another one of those anytime soon and you rarely will get one of those through a trade. Sure McDavid would do it, but not Hall ... we have Patches on LW and while Hall is an upgrade it's not enough of an upgrade when considering you're losing a guy who's playing 25-30mins a night and leading your team in pts. I did add a ++ to that consideration. Add a Darnell Nurse and a 1st rounder (shot at Matthews) and it starts to look pretty appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest archey Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 I just hope that hockey isn't like the sax because it has taken me like 30 years to get the sound I wanted and it's like a rabbit in the world of loud crashes up to that point when I got it --meaning that if the guys, like me, are just finding their game and it's taking longer than expected and MT is just fostering them......well then somebody is going to feel bad about all their nerves that they've had when we turn it around. And of course.........that IS what I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsAlways Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 I did add a ++ to that consideration. Add a Darnell Nurse and a 1st rounder (shot at Matthews) and it starts to look pretty appealing. Hall, Nurse and 1st Rounder ... Oilers would want a forward as well ... lets say Patches Patches + Subban for Hall, Nurse and 1st rounder ... that 1st rounder is not going to be the 1st overall I bet, since injecting Subban and Patches onto the Oilers with a REAL coach ... they don't finish last. And I'm not sold on Nurse as anything more than a bottom 6 pairing ... PS : I live in Edmonton EDIT : That still leaves us with the DD problem ... I bet any money MT plays DD with Hall and Hall looks no better than Patches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted February 19, 2016 Report Share Posted February 19, 2016 Louis Jean "“There is no question that the captain, Max Pacioretty, and Subban are not best friends,” Jean told Hockey Central at Noon Friday. “He’s a guy that does rub some the wrong way.” To me, given Patches performance, given how he gave up on that play, given how he has 1 goal in his last 12g when we needed him most, given he's a negative player during that stretch as well ... Well I'd be way more comfortable with us trading Patches than Subban I would too as long as Patches goal production was replaced and we got a player who could bring a little more than what Patches brings each game. Scoring goals isn't the be all, end all of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 According to the Newark Star-Ledger and NJ.com, the Devils have five players they could trade between now and the Feb. 29 deadline. The paper lists defensemen Eric Gelinas and David Schlemko, and forwards Lee Stempniak, Stefan Matteau and Jordin Tootoo as possible trade candidates.Veteran left wing Teddy Purcell knows his days with the Edmonton Oilers could be coming to an end, as the NHL trade deadline quickly approaches. Purcell, 30, is in the final year of his contract and can become an unrestricted free agent July 1. There is a good chance the Oilers look to move him for draft picks, instead of risk losing him for nothing as a free agent in the summer. http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/edm160220.html Anything worth Bergevin looking into? Probably not... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 According to the Newark Star-Ledger and NJ.com, the Devils have five players they could trade between now and the Feb. 29 deadline. The paper lists defensemen Eric Gelinas and David Schlemko, and forwards Lee Stempniak, Stefan Matteau and Jordin Tootoo as possible trade candidates. Veteran left wing Teddy Purcell knows his days with the Edmonton Oilers could be coming to an end, as the NHL trade deadline quickly approaches. Purcell, 30, is in the final year of his contract and can become an unrestricted free agent July 1. There is a good chance the Oilers look to move him for draft picks, instead of risk losing him for nothing as a free agent in the summer. http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/edm160220.html Anything worth Bergevin looking into? Probably not... right? Right, probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Right, absolutely not. The Habs aren't making the playoffs , no point in being buyers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 According to the Newark Star-Ledger and NJ.com, the Devils have five players they could trade between now and the Feb. 29 deadline. The paper lists defensemen Eric Gelinas and David Schlemko, and forwards Lee Stempniak, Stefan Matteau and Jordin Tootoo as possible trade candidates. Veteran left wing Teddy Purcell knows his days with the Edmonton Oilers could be coming to an end, as the NHL trade deadline quickly approaches. Purcell, 30, is in the final year of his contract and can become an unrestricted free agent July 1. There is a good chance the Oilers look to move him for draft picks, instead of risk losing him for nothing as a free agent in the summer. http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/edm160220.html Anything worth Bergevin looking into? Probably not... right? Right, probably not. The Habs aren't making the playoffs , no point in being buyers Most of those names should be of no interest to us. However, I would definitely take a look at Eric Gelinas. He's a 24 year old 6'4 215 lb left handed dman who could actually be of some use to us depending on the asking price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 According to multiple sources, the Habs have been actively offering up Fleischmann, Gilbert, and Weise as being available for a deadline deal. Craig Custance of ESPN suggests the Habs' asking price right now is a 2nd and a 3rd for Weise. Allan Muir of Sports Illustrated suggested the Stars may be interested in Weise for the right price. He suggested Dallas would also like to add a veteran defenceman and speculated that available pieces could include young D men like Patrik Nemeth and Jamie Oleksiak. Mike Heika also threw out that Nischushkin could be on the table. If Dallas is indeed willing to part with some of those young NHL-ready players, they could be a great fit as a trading partner for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs=stanleycup Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 'On the Montreal Canadiens, Washington Capitals and San Jose Sharks …' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewfoundlandHab Posted February 21, 2016 Report Share Posted February 21, 2016 According to multiple sources, the Habs have been actively offering up Fleischmann, Gilbert, and Weise as being available for a deadline deal. Craig Custance of ESPN suggests the Habs' asking price right now is a 2nd and a 3rd for Weise. Allan Muir of Sports Illustrated suggested the Stars may be interested in Weise for the right price. He suggested Dallas would also like to add a veteran defenceman and speculated that available pieces could include young D men like Patrik Nemeth and Jamie Oleksiak. Mike Heika also threw out that Nischushkin could be on the table. If Dallas is indeed willing to part with some of those young NHL-ready players, they could be a great fit as a trading partner for us. Nichuskin would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 It seems the general consensus is that only the top 3 picks are NHL ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 SPORTSNET: Friedman believes Vancouver Canucks right wing Radim Vrbata could be on the move, as could defenseman Dan Hamhuis and perhaps winger Jannik Hansen.RDS: Jannik Hansen a déjà marqué 19 buts, son haut plus total en carrière, en plus de se rapprocher de son plus haut total de points, 39, établi en 2010-11. Puisque les Canucks ont déjà abandonné l'idée de participer aux séries, le DG Jim Benning devrait-il échanger Hansen tandis que sa valeur est haute? Le Danois ne gagnera que 2,5 M$ par année lors des deux prochaines saisons.Brief translation... Should the vancouver GM trade Hansen? He is from Denmark; has scored 19 goals this season and is under contract for two more years at 2.5 million. (he is a legit right-wing; 6'1" 195 lbs... third line with Eller?) Would you swap Andrighetto (add something perhaps) for Hansen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 SPORTSNET: Friedman believes Vancouver Canucks right wing Radim Vrbata could be on the move, as could defenseman Dan Hamhuis and perhaps winger Jannik Hansen. RDS: Jannik Hansen a déjà marqué 19 buts, son haut plus total en carrière, en plus de se rapprocher de son plus haut total de points, 39, établi en 2010-11. Puisque les Canucks ont déjà abandonné l'idée de participer aux séries, le DG Jim Benning devrait-il échanger Hansen tandis que sa valeur est haute? Le Danois ne gagnera que 2,5 M$ par année lors des deux prochaines saisons. Brief translation... Should the vancouver GM trade Hansen? He is from Denmark; has scored 19 goals this season and is under contract for two more years at 2.5 million. (he is a legit right-wing; 6'1" 195 lbs... third line with Eller?) Would you swap Andrighetto (add something perhaps) for Hansen? I would try to make a deal for him, but he "is" 29 years old, so he's, IMO, not gong to get better. He is cheap tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 The Washington Capitals acquired defenseman Mike Weber from the Buffalo Sabres for a third-round pick in the 2017 NHL Draft on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Basically what we've seen thus far: - Shawn Mattias garnered a prospect and a 4th round pick - Spaling yieleded a 2nd round pick - Polak yielded a 2nd round pick - Mike Weber fetched a 3rd rounder Based on that, the Habs probably lost out on a 2nd round pick by having Gilbert injured. Dale Weise is better than all those players, so potentially, it would not be unreasonable to ask for a late 1st rounder or a combination of a 2nd rounder plus another 2nd/3rd rounder. Fleischmann maybe could yield a 4th round pick. Seems to be a sellers market this year based on early returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 Bob McKenzie: " VAN has let other 29 teams know they are open for business on: Vey, Bartkowski, Kenins, Cracknell, Higgins, Prust and Weber. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Bob McKenzie: " VAN has let other 29 teams know they are open for business on: Vey, Bartkowski, Kenins, Cracknell, Higgins, Prust and Weber. " Aren't many of these players in the minors anyways. No one wants that collection of garbage they're offering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimaas Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Basically what we've seen thus far: - Shawn Mattias garnered a prospect and a 4th round pick - Spaling yieleded a 2nd round pick - Polak yielded a 2nd round pick - Mike Weber fetched a 3rd rounder Based on that, the Habs probably lost out on a 2nd round pick by having Gilbert injured. Dale Weise is better than all those players, so potentially, it would not be unreasonable to ask for a late 1st rounder or a combination of a 2nd rounder plus another 2nd/3rd rounder. Fleischmann maybe could yield a 4th round pick. Seems to be a sellers market this year based on early returns. Yeah it sucks about gilbert but what can you do. Id rather trade Weise for a 2nd + prospect endorsed by Timmins & Co. although I could live with two 2nd rounders (i dont know if anyone is giving you their first for him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Yeah it sucks about gilbert but what can you do. Id rather trade Weise for a 2nd + prospect endorsed by Timmins & Co. although I could live with two 2nd rounders (i dont know if anyone is giving you their first for him). Before the season, I never would have thought about a 1st for Weise. But he's had a career year and is probably this year's Matt Beleskey in terms of being an impending UFA who suddenly put up offensive numbers. Weise will likely be highly coveted as a free agent and sign a deal worth 2.5-3.5M a season. Wouldn't surprise me. Someone out there is going to like his speed/size/secondary scoring combination. I'm not sure if he'll garner a 1st rounder, but with the way the market has been set, it's possible. He's definitely better than any of those guys I mentioned above who were traded for 2nd's or mid-round picks. Not as good as a Staal or Drouin or anything obviously, but the asking price on those guys will likely be a 1st plus some other pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.