habby67 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Put him on the 3rd line with Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 1. Price will be fine. I doubt he's got a key injury, I think he's just fighting the puck a bit right now. Lundqvist has gone through the same thing this year. MAF goes through stretches like this all the time. Price will be fine. He is not the problem going forward. I don't think it's reasonable to expect a .935 save percentage, but nor do I think a .900 save percentage is going to last either. Price should be able to give us a .925 to .930 save percentage, which means that if we continue to play good hockey (which we have been outside of the last two games), we should need to score 3 goals to win most games. 2. On the above trade proposal, it's interesting to me. Sergachev and McCarron are the two prospects we probably most want to hold onto IMO, one being a potentially elite top pairing defenceman and the other being a style of player that's rare and that we can't really replace within the organization right now. But the fact is that McCarron is more likely to become Brian Boyle than he is Joe Thornton or Milan Lucic. Beaulieu is looking like he may remain a 2nd-pairing defenceman and not more than that, maybe more akin to Tom Gilbert or possibly a Mike Green/Brian Rafalski if we get really lucky with his development. But again, I'm not counting on more than 2nd pairing at this point because his progression is a little behind the curve of what we'd hope to see by now. And so frankly, the question is whether we're willing to give up the potential of three young players for the potential of one young player and a current top-pairing D man. Ekman-Larsson is probably a top 20 D man in the league. He's largely underrated because he plays in a city with little exposure and because he's played on really bad teams. But this player has put up decent possession numbers and he's been a 20-goal scorer from the back end a couple of times. Now it's quite possible that Sergachev becomes a better player than OEL, but OEL is a known commodity and MS is an unknown, potentially better but potentially worse. Given the Price window to win is now, adding OEL could be a key piece, and he's only 25, not a past-his-prime guy like Weber. I would love to subtract Duclair from the deal and try to get OEL for less... maybe Mac and Juulsen, for example. But I think this is worth looking into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted January 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 Habs have 2 scouts at the NYR-Tor game tonight. Doubtful they're looking at dealing with the Rangers, but hard to make a deal within your own division too. One might wonder if they're scouting JVR although a part of me is afraid they might be looking at Bozak or Kadri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiLla Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 10 hours ago, BigTed3 said: Ekman-Larsson is probably a top 20 D man in the league. He's largely underrated because he plays in a city with little exposure and because he's played on really bad teams. But this player has put up decent possession numbers and he's been a 20-goal scorer from the back end a couple of times. Now it's quite possible that Sergachev becomes a better player than OEL, but OEL is a known commodity and MS is an unknown, potentially better but potentially worse. Given the Price window to win is now, adding OEL could be a key piece, and he's only 25, not a past-his-prime guy like Weber. I would love to subtract Duclair from the deal and try to get OEL for less... maybe Mac and Juulsen, for example. But I think this is worth looking into. I'm not really interested in Duclair either to be honest but I do see the appeal. Still, trading for Ekman-Larsson would be absolutely amazing and I'd definitely be willing to include Sergachev in that deal. Realistically, I think of Sergachev as a long-term replacement for Markov, so why not speed up the process and acquire that replacement right now, i.e. while Price and Pacioretty are still signed to reasonable deals? Not really sure what Arizona wants/needs, but we'd definitely have to add some salary. Emelin plus Sergachev for OEL straight up? Add a second rounder if need be? Would they want more? OEL-Weber Beaulieu-Petry Markov-Pateryn Looks very strong to me hockey-wise, probably not enough grit and sandpaper considering who's running operations tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 In an attempt to spark struggling forward Anthony Duclair, the Arizona Coyotes have assigned the 21-year-old to the AHL's Tucson Roadrunners. Duclair scored 20 goals and added 24 assists in the 81 games last season, his first with the Coyotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 5 hours ago, ChiLla said: I'm not really interested in Duclair either to be honest but I do see the appeal. Still, trading for Ekman-Larsson would be absolutely amazing and I'd definitely be willing to include Sergachev in that deal. Realistically, I think of Sergachev as a long-term replacement for Markov, so why not speed up the process and acquire that replacement right now, i.e. while Price and Pacioretty are still signed to reasonable deals? Not really sure what Arizona wants/needs, but we'd definitely have to add some salary. Emelin plus Sergachev for OEL straight up? Add a second rounder if need be? Would they want more? OEL-Weber Beaulieu-Petry Markov-Pateryn Looks very strong to me hockey-wise, probably not enough grit and sandpaper considering who's running operations tough. Emelin + Sergachev for OEL would be a dream. Dont know it would work for Arizona but it would give us one heck of a blueline. Man, it was only a couple of years ago our Blueline had Boullion and Murray in the top 6. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiLla Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 2 hours ago, maas_art said: Emelin + Sergachev for OEL would be a dream. Dont know it would work for Arizona but it would give us one heck of a blueline. Man, it was only a couple of years ago our Blueline had Boullion and Murray in the top 6. Yikes. Yeah, the good old days. I really miss seeing Frank the Tank actually getting PP time under Therrien Seriously though, I'd also be okay with Sergachev, Emelin plus our 1st rounder this year for OEL if that's what it's going to take. We need to win now, not 3 years down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 If you believe Eklund, Calgary is interested in acquiring DD from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 42 minutes ago, maas_art said: If you believe Eklund, Calgary is interested in acquiring DD from us. I want to believe. I really do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_93 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, BigTed3 said: I want to believe. I really do. Pretend it's DD in the trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, maas_art said: If you believe Eklund, Calgary is interested in acquiring DD from us. Hopefully before the deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs1952 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, maas_art said: If you believe Eklund, Calgary is interested in acquiring DD from us. I'll take anything for him and I mean ANYTHING!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs=stanleycup Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, maas_art said: If you believe Eklund, Calgary is interested in acquiring DD from us. Please please let it be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 35 minutes ago, habs1952 said: I'll take anything for him and I mean ANYTHING!!! Yeah i mean i dont think the return would be great, obviously. A 7th rounder or a career AHLer would be fine because otherwise MT will over-rely on DD once again as soon as anyone in front of him has a mini slump. i could see us enquiring about a guy like Smid, Versteeg or Stajan. Would personally rather just take a pick or a prospect though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs=stanleycup Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 50 minutes ago, maas_art said: Yeah i mean i dont think the return would be great, obviously. A 7th rounder or a career AHLer would be fine because otherwise MT will over-rely on DD once again as soon as anyone in front of him has a mini slump. i could see us enquiring about a guy like Smid, Versteeg or Stajan. Would personally rather just take a pick or a prospect though. My fear is that team foxhole would be reluctant to trade DD, but considering how Danault has evolved positively as a player, they would already have their token French player in Danault to satisfy the French media's political thirst in Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 Wouldn't it be nice if he just walks across the hall tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted January 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 46 minutes ago, kinot-2 said: Wouldn't it be nice if he just walks across the hall tomorrow? As long as he's not healthy enough to play against us... knowing our luck playing French-Canadian ex-players of ours, he'd probably tally 5 points against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted January 23, 2017 Report Share Posted January 23, 2017 1 hour ago, BigTed3 said: As long as he's not healthy enough to play against us... knowing our luck playing French-Canadian ex-players of ours, he'd probably tally 5 points against us. Still worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kswhabs11 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Two trades to get us the line up we need to go along way in the play-offs. Trade Desharnais, Pateryn & Carr for Alex Goligoski. Then trade Plekanec, Beaulieu and Hudon for Matt Duchene and Eric Gelinas. Our line up looks like this Pacioretty, Duchene, Gallagher Lehkonen, Galchenyuk, Radulov Byron, Danault, Shaw De La Rose, Mitchell, Flynn (Andrighetto) D- Weber - Goligoski Emelin - Petry Markov - Gelinas/Barberio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 5 hours ago, kswhabs11 said: Two trades to get us the line up we need to go along way in the play-offs. Trade Desharnais, Pateryn & Carr for Alex Goligoski. Then trade Plekanec, Beaulieu and Hudon for Matt Duchene and Eric Gelinas. Our line up looks like this Pacioretty, Duchene, Gallagher Lehkonen, Galchenyuk, Radulov Byron, Danault, Shaw De La Rose, Mitchell, Flynn (Andrighetto) D- Weber - Goligoski Emelin - Petry Markov - Gelinas/Barberio Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafHabs2015 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 3:16 PM, kinot-2 said: A full point stronger? lol funny, I tested on Weber/Subban. Weber won...9.96 vs. 3.26 wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Re Hanzal,,,, from EOTP: The asking price of Michael McCarron, a first-round pick, and a conditional pick appeared to be a bit too steep for Montreal Canadiens General Manager Marc Bergevin . The Canadiens have been closely tied to the Coyotes in trade rumours all season, with names such as Hanzal, Anthony Duclair, and Shane Doan being mentioned at various points. So far this season Hanzal has scored 10 goals and added eight assists in 39 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiLla Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, kinot-2 said: Re Hanzal,,,, from EOTP: The asking price of Michael McCarron, a first-round pick, and a conditional pick appeared to be a bit too steep for Montreal Canadiens General Manager Marc Bergevin . The Canadiens have been closely tied to the Coyotes in trade rumours all season, with names such as Hanzal, Anthony Duclair, and Shane Doan being mentioned at various points. So far this season Hanzal has scored 10 goals and added eight assists in 39 games. McCarron plus a 1st rounder and a conditional pick? For Hanzal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_93 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 41 minutes ago, ChiLla said: McCarron plus a 1st rounder and a conditional pick? For Hanzal? That trade would not taste like beef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, ChiLla said: McCarron plus a 1st rounder and a conditional pick? For Hanzal? Apparently, I should have posted this in the Good Laugh Thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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