PuckPundit Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 19 hours ago, BigTed3 said: but I'd be very cautious making claims the way some media have that the Habs have become an elite team. I'll surprised if any discerning fan is delusional enough to drink the media kool aid . The eye test doesn't lie. What's really scary is the foxhole trio actually believe it is true , patting themselves at the back and influencing their next trade/coaching/tactical choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 What is up with Yakupov? Should the Habs approach St. Louis about a trade that could see both Yakupov and Desharnais being swapped? Would you be interested to see Nail playing with Galchenyuk and Radulov? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 18 minutes ago, Habs_Hockey_Nutz said: What is up with Yakupov? Should the Habs approach St. Louis about a trade that could see both Yakupov and Desharnais being swapped? Would you be interested to see Nail playing with Galchenyuk and Radulov? Ya, I heard he was benched for their last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs=stanleycup Posted November 11, 2016 Report Share Posted November 11, 2016 34 minutes ago, Habs_Hockey_Nutz said: What is up with Yakupov? Should the Habs approach St. Louis about a trade that could see both Yakupov and Desharnais being swapped? Would you be interested to see Nail playing with Galchenyuk and Radulov? As a straight up swap, I'd go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serial_Thrilla_27 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 I would think acquiring Yakupov would definitely benefit him. Radulov, I would think would be nothing but a positive influence on him. A former 1st rounder who had a rocky start to his career. If you can get him for Desharnais, then good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 1 hour ago, Serial_Thrilla_27 said: I would think acquiring Yakupov would definitely benefit him. Radulov, I would think would be nothing but a positive influence on him. A former 1st rounder who had a rocky start to his career. If you can get him for Desharnais, then good. Interesting, but would MB do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 Shaw for Hartnell straight-up... would you do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 2 hours ago, Habs_Hockey_Nutz said: Shaw for Hartnell straight-up... would you do it? From what i've seen of Shaw so far,,,,,in a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_93 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Habs_Hockey_Nutz said: Shaw for Hartnell straight-up... would you do it? No. Contract's too long, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 20 hours ago, habs_93 said: No. Contract's too long, IMO. How long is Hartnell signed for? We have Shaw for 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs1952 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 20 hours ago, H_T_L said: How long is Hartnell signed for? We have Shaw for 6 years. 2 more years after this year at a cap hit of 4.75. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_93 Posted November 12, 2016 Report Share Posted November 12, 2016 20 hours ago, H_T_L said: How long is Hartnell signed for? We have Shaw for 6 years. Despite Shaw's slow start, I'd rather have him as an unknown quantity for those 4 years than Hartnell as we know him for the next two. I'd honestly prefer neither, but that's not where we're at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serial_Thrilla_27 Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 18 hours ago, kinot-1 said: Interesting, but would MB do it? I don't see it happening simply because they don't like dealing with players who have "attitude problems" perceived or real. Besides which I think MTL feels they have a legit scoring winger in Paul Byron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 On 11/11/2016 at 10:47 AM, Habs_Hockey_Nutz said: What is up with Yakupov? Should the Habs approach St. Louis about a trade that could see both Yakupov and Desharnais being swapped? Would you be interested to see Nail playing with Galchenyuk and Radulov? After a good start to the season he's really tanked in St Louis. I suspect they (The blues) would move him for very little (DD) but I am not sure if there would be a very good fit with MT. I suppose one could approach Chucky & see what he thought. If there was a potential for magic a 1st line of Yakupov - Chucky - Radulov would be pretty mesmerizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Yakupov is another healthy scratch tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckPundit Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 10 hours ago, kinot-1 said: Yakupov is another healthy scratch tonight. Making easy $$$ without having to sweat for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 18 hours ago, kinot-1 said: Yakupov is another healthy scratch tonight. Habs have to take a serious look at acquiring him IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 45 minutes ago, Habs_Hockey_Nutz said: Habs have to take a serious look at acquiring him IMO. I understand the cost would probably be quite low (at worst a 2nd rounder, at best a guy like DD off the books) but do you really think he'd be given a fair chance by MT? I suppose the reward outweighs the risk, I just cant help but feel he wont be given a chance to prove his value if we were to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 36 minutes ago, maas_art said: I understand the cost would probably be quite low (at worst a 2nd rounder, at best a guy like DD off the books) but do you really think he'd be given a fair chance by MT? I suppose the reward outweighs the risk, I just cant help but feel he wont be given a chance to prove his value if we were to do it. I say it is worth the risk as the reward could mean parting ways with Desharnais. How MT would use him is another story that may require pressure from Bergevin and Molson to force him into a top-six role (preferably with Galchenyuk and Radulov). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptWelly Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Quote It would have to be lower than a 2nd round pick. He did great in Juniors yes. That doesn't always translate to the NHL first overall or not. Hitchcock has been around awhile and St. Louis could use scoring but he's benching him. I'm sure there's more to meet the eye as it is said. I don't know how you could guarantee to play him in the top six. I think he would have to earn his way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habberwacky Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 Not sure why we would want to bring a guy who cannot make the Oilers or Blues to a team that is supposedly coached by the worst coach in the league and expect something different or better grom Yakupov. Yakupov would not break this line-up. He is a very one dimensional player and that doe s not bod well for him on this team or in this league. Therrien likes to use guys in a variety of roles and has been doing so since he got here. If you cannot adapt you usually don't play. I get the Galchenyuk piece but with Radulov on that line now not sure he fits. I would give a fourth rounder for himbut don;t see St. Louis giving him away either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 13 hours ago, Habberwacky said: Not sure why we would want to bring a guy who cannot make the Oilers or Blues to a team that is supposedly coached by the worst coach in the league and expect something different or better grom Yakupov. Yakupov would not break this line-up. He is a very one dimensional player and that doe s not bod well for him on this team or in this league. Therrien likes to use guys in a variety of roles and has been doing so since he got here. If you cannot adapt you usually don't play. I get the Galchenyuk piece but with Radulov on that line now not sure he fits. I would give a fourth rounder for himbut don;t see St. Louis giving him away either He does seem like a bust so far and one dimensional... however playing with two other Russian players may make all the difference. Granted he has seemed to be a defensive liability, which probably explains why some of his coaches don't play him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Habs_Hockey_Nutz said: He does seem like a bust so far and one dimensional... however playing with two other Russian players may make all the difference. Granted he has seemed to be a defensive liability, which probably explains why some of his coaches don't play him. Well and the thing is, having watched him quite a bit when he was with the oilers, I wouldnt even say he is a lazy player defensively. He just seems to have really poor hockey sense. if he doesnt have the puck in a shooting lane, he seems to have no idea where to go/be. Without the puck he's a disaster. I suppose there's a possibility you get him to play a north south game and 'go to the slot' but you couldnt ever rely on him on your first line because his vision is so poor. My guess is that (if he doesnt retire/get forced out before then) he will probably have a bit of a rebirth in a couple of years playing on some team's 2nd or 3rd line, away from defensive responsibilities where he can just drive to the net and chip in 30 goals as a secondary scorer. Ask him to do more than that & I think he's going to fail. Dont see MB trading for him at this point so its moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckPundit Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 If MB wants a top 4 D-man, cough up the $$$ and get Dougie Hamilton. But the team has no cap space for it. More importantly, knowing BargainBin, it's just not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiLla Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 3 hours ago, PuckPundit said: If MB wants a top 4 D-man, cough up the $$$ and get Dougie Hamilton. But the team has no cap space for it. More importantly, knowing BargainBin, it's just not going to happen. I don't think there's a real need for a guy like Dougie Hamilton here, who's yet another RD. Also, didn't Calgary trade three very high draft picks for him only a year ago? Given his numbers from last season, I don't think he's to be had for cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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