HabsRuleForever Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Canada Day is the start of let's overpay day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyez Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Canada Day is the start of let's overpay day. Can we sign Stamkos for whatever he wants & then overpay by throwing in DD ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Will he? Won't he? All eyes on Marc Bergevin... Dale Weise? David Perron? Patrick Bordeleau? Could be right up his alley eh Mikkel Boedker? Darren Helm? Troy Brouer? Plan B perhaps Steven Stamkos? Andrew Ladd? Loui Erikkson? Too pricey Dan Hamhuis? Kris Russel? Jason Demers? More defense :| What's left... Would you rather spend big on an Andrew Ladd, or would you want to see the Habs go the low-cost route with Perron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 Top Free Agent Doesn't Want To Sign In Montreal? June 26, 2016 According to Tony Marinaro, power winger Kyle Okposo does not want to sign in Montreal with the Canadiens and will not entertain potential offers by the team. gohabsgo.com . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 One player in particular that the Canadiens have been linked to his Andrew Ladd, and there is a report from The Fourth Period magazine detailed that Ladd is seeking a contract that would pay him at least $6 million per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff33 Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 One player in particular that the Canadiens have been linked to his Andrew Ladd, and there is a report from The Fourth Period magazine detailed that Ladd is seeking a contract that would pay him at least $6 million per year. 4 million for 15 goals 6 for 20 but boy would we ever have a lot of character sounds like right up our alley. still losing 2-1 every night, but doing it with grit and determination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted June 28, 2016 Report Share Posted June 28, 2016 If you believe the rumors... - Habs have talked to Matt Martin. - Habs have talked to Dale Weise about coming back but want him to drop his salary demands. - Craig Custance of ESPN also reporting Habs have a lot of interest in Stamkos. Pierre Lebrun reporting he sees Tor/TB/Buf/Det as most likely destinations but Habs having an outside shot. NYR appear to be out of the SS sweepstakes. - Cam Fowler trade talks apparently done... Anaheim mainly wanted the #9 overall pick from us (and IMo we are better off with Sergachev than Fowler) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_93 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 If you believe the rumors... - Habs have talked to Matt Martin. Just when you thought it was bad enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Just when you thought it was bad enough... Who would you rather... Dale Weise or Matt Martin? And you can't say 'neither' for this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I have very low expectations this year. I won't be left with that empty feeling that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 This is the ideal summer for Marc Bergevin: - Trade away David Desharnais, Paul Byron, and Alexei Emelin - Sign Steven Stamkos, 7 years at 10.5M per season - Go after David Perron (offer 4.25M for 4 years) or Mikkel Boedker (offer 3.9M for 4 years) for 2nd line LW. Failing that, look to Lehkonen, Reway, Hudon, or Scherbak to try and fill that role. - Target a young UFA D man to be the 7th D man... someone like Dylan Olsen, Brandon Gormley, or so on, 1 year deal for 800k. Otherwise can look at trades or can re-sign Morgan Ellis for this role. - Demote Flynn, Matteau Would leave us with something that looks like this: Pacioretty-Stamkos-McCarron Perron-Galchenyuk-Gallagher Danault-Plekanec-Shaw Andrighetto-Mitchell-Carr De La Rose Beaulieu-Subban Markov-Petry Barberio-Pateryn Olsen Not perfect, but by filling out our top 6, we get everyone in the right role. It gives us an excellent 3rd line with the opportunity to bring in a Lehkonen or Hudon or so on on Plekanec's wing if a rookie really blows us away. Danault could always be slid down into the 4C or 4LW role if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnveenie Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Habs have also talked to Perron who is reportedly very interested in signing. A quote from Dale Weise when a reporter suggested the Habs might have too many depth players: "No disrespect, but they didn't make the playoffs. I don't think their depth is where it should be."... Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Habs have also talked to Perron who is reportedly very interested in signing. A quote from Dale Weise when a reporter suggested the Habs might have too many depth players: "No disrespect, but they didn't make the playoffs. I don't think their depth is where it should be."... Yikes. Well Weise was part of that "depth" for most of the season that led to not making the playoffs, so I guess he's not the answer either then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Another route to consider is the offersheet for an RFA... these things rarely work out, but over the past few years, the amount of money needed to generate compensation has gone up quite a bit. You can offer someone up to about 7.2M and only have to give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick. We all know we have plenty of 2nd's to share and frankly if we're willing to give up two high 2nd's for Shaw, there are plenty of guys who might be worth giving up the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. As long as you are confident your 1st won't be a lottery pick, it's a pretty good deal for the team making the offersheet. A few players I might consider offer-sheeting: - Seth Jones - Torey Krug - Nathan MacKinnon - Mike Hoffman - Valeri Nichushkin - Matt Dumba - Mark Scheifele I imagine most of their teams would likely match, although not sure about the Sens with Hoffman. But these are guys to consider. I would gladly offer Jones or MacKinnon 5.5-6M a season and give up the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 From what I heard on TSN radio Weise has some suitors so I don't think he's coming. I always really like Weise but I mean we have way too many 3rd line players as it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Another route to consider is the offersheet for an RFA... these things rarely work out, but over the past few years, the amount of money needed to generate compensation has gone up quite a bit. You can offer someone up to about 7.2M and only have to give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick. We all know we have plenty of 2nd's to share and frankly if we're willing to give up two high 2nd's for Shaw, there are plenty of guys who might be worth giving up the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. As long as you are confident your 1st won't be a lottery pick, it's a pretty good deal for the team making the offersheet. A few players I might consider offer-sheeting: - Seth Jones - Torey Krug - Nathan MacKinnon - Mike Hoffman - Valeri Nichushkin - Matt Dumba - Mark Scheifele I imagine most of their teams would likely match, although not sure about the Sens with Hoffman. But these are guys to consider. I would gladly offer Jones or MacKinnon 5.5-6M a season and give up the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, for example. GMs never do it though, but yes I would definitely make some offers for RFAs... I would most like to go after Kucherov, especially if Tampa keeps Stamkos, Seth Jones could also be a good idea as Columbus is in cap hell (surprisingly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 This is the ideal summer for Marc Bergevin: - Trade away David Desharnais, Paul Byron, and Alexei Emelin - Sign Steven Stamkos, 7 years at 10.5M per season - Go after David Perron (offer 4.25M for 4 years) or Mikkel Boedker (offer 3.9M for 4 years) for 2nd line LW. Failing that, look to Lehkonen, Reway, Hudon, or Scherbak to try and fill that role. - Target a young UFA D man to be the 7th D man... someone like Dylan Olsen, Brandon Gormley, or so on, 1 year deal for 800k. Otherwise can look at trades or can re-sign Morgan Ellis for this role. - Demote Flynn, Matteau Would leave us with something that looks like this: Pacioretty-Stamkos-McCarron Perron-Galchenyuk-Gallagher Danault-Plekanec-Shaw Andrighetto-Mitchell-Carr De La Rose Beaulieu-Subban Markov-Petry Barberio-Pateryn Olsen Not perfect, but by filling out our top 6, we get everyone in the right role. It gives us an excellent 3rd line with the opportunity to bring in a Lehkonen or Hudon or so on on Plekanec's wing if a rookie really blows us away. Danault could always be slid down into the 4C or 4LW role if needed. I believe if the Habs can sign Stamkos (doubtful) there is no need to sign Perron who is in decline in any case (not interested). I doubt Byron is traded. Matteau can be released as a UFA, I believe, since he has not been qualified. I don't understand the Ellis situation. With our new ninth pick coming into the picture probably sooner rather than later, I think Beaulieu being traded becomes a possibility to facilitate a trade. Trade away David Desharnais, and keep Alexei Emelin. Trade Mitchell and keep Flynn. Use the farm. Habs have also talked to Perron who is reportedly very interested in signing. A quote from Dale Weise when a reporter suggested the Habs might have too many depth players: "No disrespect, but they didn't make the playoffs. I don't think their depth is where it should be."... Yikes. No to Perron... Weise needs to come back down to earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Another route to consider is the offersheet for an RFA... these things rarely work out, but over the past few years, the amount of money needed to generate compensation has gone up quite a bit. You can offer someone up to about 7.2M and only have to give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round pick. We all know we have plenty of 2nd's to share and frankly if we're willing to give up two high 2nd's for Shaw, there are plenty of guys who might be worth giving up the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. As long as you are confident your 1st won't be a lottery pick, it's a pretty good deal for the team making the offersheet. A few players I might consider offer-sheeting: - Seth Jones - Torey Krug - Nathan MacKinnon - Mike Hoffman - Valeri Nichushkin - Matt Dumba - Mark Scheifele I imagine most of their teams would likely match, although not sure about the Sens with Hoffman. But these are guys to consider. I would gladly offer Jones or MacKinnon 5.5-6M a season and give up the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd, for example. A definite possibility I have considered... somehow I don't think MB has the inclination to go in that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 No to Perron... Weise needs to come back down to earth. He will when he's playing the KHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs1952 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 I have very low expectations this year. I won't be left with that empty feeling that way. Yeah. Nothing MB has done so far has me jumping for joy. Quite the opposite really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 RW Loui Eriksson (BOS) The Canadiens would be wise to check in with Loui Eriksson during the current UFA negotiating window. Eriksson brings excellent skill at both ends of the ice, and is a dependable two-way force that can play both left and right wing. The major concern with Eriksson appears to be age and term, he may be looking to land a six year deal that would take him to age 37. Perhaps... I'm still curious about Shipachyov's potential and what that would cost the habs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Definitely worth consideration IMHO... JOE COLBORNE, RWAge: 262015-16 cap hit: $1.28 million A surprise UFA after Flames did not qualify him. Plenty left to offer at his age. A huge frame and could move back to his natural position at center. BRANDON PIRRI, LWAge: 252015-16 cap hit: $925,000 Continuously flashes goal-scoring potential and won’t cost too much. A nice sleeper. JAMIE MCGINN, LWAge: 272015-16 cap hit: $2.95 million A bargain. His offense spikes whenever he’s given a chance to play with legit scorers, as he showed in Anaheim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 GMs never do it though, but yes I would definitely make some offers for RFAs... I would most like to go after Kucherov, especially if Tampa keeps Stamkos, Seth Jones could also be a good idea as Columbus is in cap hell (surprisingly). According to Joe Haggerty (media in Boston), Don Sweeney and the Bruins are preparing to offersheet Trouba. So it could happen... with the cap causing teams a lot of headaches, it might be easier than ever to give a big offersheet and have teams simply unable to match. And again, if you can go up to 7.2M and only give up a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, that's a great deal for a non-lottery team. From what I heard on TSN radio Weise has some suitors so I don't think he's coming. I always really like Weise but I mean we have way too many 3rd line players as it is FWIW, Weise was in Montreal today. I agree we don't need any more bottom 6 players, but MB clearly does not. Definitely worth consideration IMHO... JOE COLBORNE, RW Age: 26 2015-16 cap hit: $1.28 million A surprise UFA after Flames did not qualify him. Plenty left to offer at his age. A huge frame and could move back to his natural position at center. BRANDON PIRRI, LW Age: 25 2015-16 cap hit: $925,000 Continuously flashes goal-scoring potential and won’t cost too much. A nice sleeper. JAMIE MCGINN, LW Age: 27 2015-16 cap hit: $2.95 million A bargain. His offense spikes whenever he’s given a chance to play with legit scorers, as he showed in Anaheim. I mentioned Pirri before. Not sure where he would play since we're jammed at center already but he's a good potential add. The Flames apparently are still trying to re-sign Colborne, and reportedly, he is looking for 3-4M a season. Flames were concerned that if they offer-sheeted him that he would take them to arbitration and win big money, so they took their chances this way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs_Hockey_Nutz Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 According to Joe Haggerty (media in Boston), Don Sweeney and the Bruins are preparing to offersheet Trouba. So it could happen... with the cap causing teams a lot of headaches, it might be easier than ever to give a big offersheet and have teams simply unable to match. And again, if you can go up to 7.2M and only give up a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, that's a great deal for a non-lottery team. FWIW, Weise was in Montreal today. I agree we don't need any more bottom 6 players, but MB clearly does not. I mentioned Pirri before. Not sure where he would play since we're jammed at center already but he's a good potential add. The Flames apparently are still trying to re-sign Colborne, and reportedly, he is looking for 3-4M a season. Flames were concerned that if they offer-sheeted him that he would take them to arbitration and win big money, so they took their chances this way... Pirri is listed as a left-winger... Colborne, is still young enough and intrigues me even at 3-4million if you consider Shaw's contract. Then again we do have McCarron, in a similar mold, waiting in the wings. Two like that could be better than one though. I do get the penchant for Stamkos and wonder how much of his friendship with Subban is a plus. But when did the Habs ever really land the biggest fish available (I wouldn't count Vanek). The trend has always been plan B or C. Or a reclamation project... Staal would fit that mold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Regis2 Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Jarred Tinordi and Devante Smith-Pelly didn't receive their QO and will both be UFA on July 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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