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2016-17 Predict the NHL Standings


BigTed3

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My take:

Atlantic

1. Lightning

2. Canadiens

3. Bruins

4. Panthers

5. Sabres

6. Red Wings

7. Senators

8. Leafs

Metropolitan

1. Capitals

2. Penguins

3. Flyers

4. Rangers

5. Hurricanes

6. Islanders

7. Devils

8. Blue Jackets

Central

1. Stars

2. Blackhawks

3. Predators

4. Wild

5. Blues

6. Jets

7. Avalanche

Pacific

1. Sharks

2. Kings

3. Flames

4. Ducks

5. Coyotes

6. Oilers

7. Canucks

 

Playoffs

Lightning over Panthers

Habs over Bruins

Caps over Rangers

Pens over Flyers

Stars over Blues

Hawks over Preds

Wild over Sharks

Kings over Flames

...

Habs over Lightning

Caps over Pens

Stars over Hawks

Kings over Wild

...

Caps over Habs

Kings over Stars

...

Caps over Kings for the Cup

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I think the East has quite a separation between the top two or three teams and the rest.

Atlantic

1. Montreal

2. Tampa

3. Florida

4. Boston

5. Ottawa

6. Detroit

7. Buffalo

8. Leafs

Metropolitan

1. Washington

2. New York I

3.Pittsburgh

4.Philadelphia

5. New York R

6. Columbus

7. New jersey

8. Carolina

Central

1. Chicago

2. St. Louis

3.Dallas

4. Minnesota

5. Nashville

6. Colorado

7. Winnipeg

Pacific

1. Anaheim

2. San Jose

3. Los Angeles

4. Calgary

5. Edmonton

6. Phoenix

7. Vancouver

 

Playoffs

Montreal over Philadelphia

Tampa over Florida

Washington over New York R.

.Pittsburgh over New York I

Anaheim over Nashville

Chicago over Minnesota

Dallas over St. Louis

San Jose over L.A. Kings

...

Montreal  over Tampa

Washington  over Pittsburgh

Dallas over Anaheim

 San Jose over Chicago

...

Montreal over Washington

Dallas over San Jose

...

Montreal over Dallas 

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Atlantic

1. Lightning

2. Bruins

3. Red Wings

4. Sabres

5. Panthers

6. Canadiens

7. Senators

8. Leafs

 

Metropolitan

1. Penguins Conference

2. Capitals

3. Rangers

4. Hurricanes WC

5. Islanders WC

6. Flyers

7. Blue Jackets

8. Devils

 

Central

1. Predators

2. Blackhawks

3. Wild

4. Stars WC

5. Blues WC

6. Jets

7. Avalanche

 

Pacific

1. Sharks League

2. Kings

3. Ducks

4. Oilers

5. Flames

6. Coyotes

7. Canucks

 

Playoffs

Penguins over Islanders

Lightning over Hurricanes

Bruins over Red Wings

Capitals over Rangers

Sharks over Blues

Predators over Stars

Kings over Ducks

Blackhawks over Wild

...

Penguins over Bruins

Capitals over Lightning

Sharks over Blackhawks

Predators over Kings

...

Capitals over Penguins

Predators over Sharks

...

Predators over Capitals for the Cup

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^^ 93, Have a hard time not seeing the Habs in the playoffs unless they run into a Carey long-term injury again. As much as Therrien is a weak coach, there's no doubt Carey can carry a team by himself. Can he lead a Therrien-led team to a Cup? Hard to believe that. But this should IMO be a playoff team.

Where I think you're spot on is the Canes. I have them 5th in the Metro but not making the playoffs, but I agree with you that this is a dark horse team this year to make a playoff run. A lot of people have them at the bottom of the conference, but they had excellent advanced stats last year and could in theory be a team that plays above what the roster says they should. Conversely, you look at Randy Carlyle taking over the Ducks (and Bruce Boudreau not being there any more) and that could be one team that coaching hurts just as much as us and where the finish might not be as good as the roster would predict.

 

 

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10 hours ago, BigTed3 said:

^^ 93, Have a hard time not seeing the Habs in the playoffs unless they run into a Carey long-term injury again. As much as Therrien is a weak coach, there's no doubt Carey can carry a team by himself. Can he lead a Therrien-led team to a Cup? Hard to believe that. But this should IMO be a playoff team.

Carey can do a lot, and I could also see us finishing third (although I doubt it highly), or in one of the Wild Card slots. It's all a matter of luck and bounces, and that's the problem. A team which is totally reliant on goaltending—which this team is—will see large point percentage swings year over year. At the individual event level (shots, both on goal and not), there's an extreme amount of noise. Teams with solid fundamentals can survive this; a fluke goal here or there is no big deal. If you have to win games 2-1 or 3-2, however, it doesn't take much to derail a season. So, there's that. It doesn't get better, though. A cursory examination of the last few seasons shows how bad the team was at generating offence 5-on-5 when Subban wasn't on the ice. In the modern NHL, it's extremely hard for teams to go anywhere without possession from defence. Petry, if given the opportunity, could start trying to fill the gap. But does anyone expect that to happen? I certainly don't. Instead, we're going to see Markov and Weber far too much. Lots of hits, lots of icing, lots of shots against. If Carey is otherworldly, maybe we win. If he's "merely" the best in the conference, we probably don't.

Will Radulov help? Most likely. Will the power play be better? It'd be hard for it to get worse. But we're back to where we started: whether it all matters is a function of chance, not merit.

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Where I think you're spot on is the Canes. I have them 5th in the Metro but not making the playoffs, but I agree with you that this is a dark horse team this year to make a playoff run. A lot of people have them at the bottom of the conference, but they had excellent advanced stats last year and could in theory be a team that plays above what the roster says they should. Conversely, you look at Randy Carlyle taking over the Ducks (and Bruce Boudreau not being there any more) and that could be one team that coaching hurts just as much as us and where the finish might not be as good as the roster would predict.

I think they're better than anyone gives them credit for.  I think 3-4-5-6 in the Metro will be extremely competitive, but I don't see the same from the Atlantic. Maybe Buffalo (or Montreal, Ottawa, or Florida, depending on luck) dukes it out and steals a Wild Card. I don't think Detroit is particularly good, but they don't really need to be in this mess.

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^^ As it was last year, the Atlantic division is a collection of pretty awful teams. Toronto will be better but they're a ways away from being competitive on a regular basis. They have younger skill players, a collection of journeymen pluggers, and question marks in goal. Buffalo will also continue to get better and might actually make a jump to challenge for a playoff spot, but they're also questionable on the back end and I can't see them coming anywhere close to a division crown. Detroit doesn't really seem to have much direction right now. Are they re-building or still going for it? Kind of caught in no-man's land. Ottawa also seems like they're in a bit of a dead-end spot right now. Not good enough to be elite, but a few good pieces that are carrying them to the middle of the pack. Florida had success last year and certainly has a very good young nucleus, but how long will Jagr and Luongo hold up? They had some decent puck luck last year, so unless they take another step forward, they might come crashing back down a bit this year.
To me, the division will come down to Tampa, Montreal, and Boston, with the Bruins being the least likely of the three to successfully climb to the top.

In the Habs' case, we have probably the worst coach in the division, but this year, we have some hope that Muller might help to overcome that. We have an aging top-end to our defence, but again, this might be overcome if Beaulieu is given a bigger role and Markov is spared some of the excessive pummeling he's taken under Therrien. Up front, we have Galchenyuk playing 1C finally, which hopefully saves Plekanec some wear and tear; Radulov is better than Semin; Lehkonen, Carr, Shaw, and maybe McCarron can also potentially be upgrades on the likes of Fleischmann, Weise, and Flynn being in the top 12. The big loss is Eller, but I think the forward group as a whole, mainly because of Radulov stabilizing the top 6, is a better group than it was last year. And frankly, with Price in net, the team is correct that it should cover up a lot of the other flaws. Take out last year, and look what Price was able to do in the regular season despite Therrien's coaching in the few years before that. I don't think he's enough to win a Cup under Therrien, but I do think he's enough (in combination with Pacman, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Plekanec, Radulov, Weber, and so on) to get into the playoffs in such a weak division.

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Atlantic

1. Lightning

2. Canadiens

3. Senators

4. Panthers WC

5. Red Wings

6. Bruins

7. Leafs

8. Sabres

 

Metropolitan

1. Penguins

2. Capitals

3. Islanders

4. Flyers WC

5. Rangers

6. Devils

7. Blue Jackets

8. Hurricanes

 

Central

1. Predators

2. Blackhawks

3. Blues

4. Wild WC

5. Stars WC

6. Jets

7. Avalanche

 

Pacific

1. Sharks 

2. Ducks

3. Oilers

4. Flames

5. Kings

6. Coyotes

7. Canucks

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On 10/9/2016 at 2:59 PM, kinot-1 said:

Atlantic

TB
Habs
Wings
Ruins
Sens
Laffs
Buffs
Cats

Met

Pens
Isles
Caps
Rags
Puffs
NJ
Canes
Columbus

Central

Hawks
Preds
Blues
Stars
Wild
Jets

Pacific

Ducks
Sharks
Calgary
Kings
Nucks
Oil
Yotes
Avs

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