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BigTed3 Hockey Guru / Grand manitou

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Will preface this by saying Weber, overall, had a decent period and came close to scoring. But one play in particular stands out to me as further evidence of how much the media discriminated against Subban and favors Weber over him.

Weber bobbled the puck at the O blue line and turned it over. As Phoenix was skating it out, Weber decided to go and hit the Coyotes player near their bench but allowed that player to pass off the puck first. The result was a 2-on-1 for Phoenix going the other way, leading to two shots on net. Now the Habs came out unscathed, but the narrative from the commentators and intermission analysts was that Weber was great and made a couple of big hits. Not one mention that his big hit put himself out of position and led to a Coyotes chance. Not one. If that were Subban making the hit, the story would have been about how selfish Subban was and how defensively irresponsible it was for him to go for the hit instead of playing D. These people can't have it both ways. If you're going to roast Subban, you need to do the same when it's Weber or Petry or Markov or Emelin. And if you're not going to roast Weber for what he did tonight, then why were these prejudiced analysts bashing Subban for the same play? Not a commentary on Weber's worth by any means, because sometimes the big hit is worth it, but it sickens me to see this illustrate just how unfair a deal Subban got here.

 

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kinot-1 Hockey Guru / Grand manitou

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1 minute ago, BigTed3 said:

Will preface this by saying Weber, overall, had a decent period and came close to scoring. But one play in particular stands out to me as further evidence of how much the media discriminated against Subban and favors Weber over him.

Weber bobbled the puck at the O blue line and turned it over. As Phoenix was skating it out, Weber decided to go and hit the Coyotes player near their bench but allowed that player to pass off the puck first. The result was a 2-on-1 for Phoenix going the other way, leading to two shots on net. Now the Habs came out unscathed, but the narrative from the commentators and intermission analysts was that Weber was great and made a couple of big hits. Not one mention that his big hit put himself out of position and led to a Coyotes chance. Not one. If that were Subban making the hit, the story would have been about how selfish Subban was and how defensively irresponsible it was for him to go for the hit instead of playing D. These people can't have it both ways. If you're going to roast Subban, you need to do the same when it's Weber or Petry or Markov or Emelin. And if you're not going to roast Weber for what he did tonight, then why were these prejudiced analysts bashing Subban for the same play? Not a commentary on Weber's worth by any means, because sometimes the big hit is worth it, but it sickens me to see this illustrate just how unfair a deal Subban got here.

 

I noticed that too. 

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habs_93 Hockey Guru / Grand manitou

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Also FWIW, Weber had the lowest Corsi among D in the first and was the only negative possession player outside of the 4th line forwards.

Yep. On my to-do list is automatically including Corsi outliers for both teams in the textual summary that my graph program generates.

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3 minutes ago, BigTed3 said:

Will preface this by saying Weber, overall, had a decent period and came close to scoring. But one play in particular stands out to me as further evidence of how much the media discriminated against Subban and favors Weber over him.

Weber bobbled the puck at the O blue line and turned it over. As Phoenix was skating it out, Weber decided to go and hit the Coyotes player near their bench but allowed that player to pass off the puck first. The result was a 2-on-1 for Phoenix going the other way, leading to two shots on net. Now the Habs came out unscathed, but the narrative from the commentators and intermission analysts was that Weber was great and made a couple of big hits. Not one mention that his big hit put himself out of position and led to a Coyotes chance. Not one. If that were Subban making the hit, the story would have been about how selfish Subban was and how defensively irresponsible it was for him to go for the hit instead of playing D. These people can't have it both ways. If you're going to roast Subban, you need to do the same when it's Weber or Petry or Markov or Emelin. And if you're not going to roast Weber for what he did tonight, then why were these prejudiced analysts bashing Subban for the same play? Not a commentary on Weber's worth by any means, because sometimes the big hit is worth it, but it sickens me to see this illustrate just how unfair a deal Subban got here.

 

I saw a similar play unfold more favourably in the first when Emelin kept the puck in, it was turned over immediately but Emelin stood him up at the line. Loved it. Loved the initial effort and then the final say.

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vegasrick Hockey Guru / Grand manitou

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5 minutes ago, BigTed3 said:

Will preface this by saying Weber, overall, had a decent period and came close to scoring. But one play in particular stands out to me as further evidence of how much the media discriminated against Subban and favors Weber over him.

Weber bobbled the puck at the O blue line and turned it over. As Phoenix was skating it out, Weber decided to go and hit the Coyotes player near their bench but allowed that player to pass off the puck first. The result was a 2-on-1 for Phoenix going the other way, leading to two shots on net. Now the Habs came out unscathed, but the narrative from the commentators and intermission analysts was that Weber was great and made a couple of big hits. Not one mention that his big hit put himself out of position and led to a Coyotes chance. Not one. If that were Subban making the hit, the story would have been about how selfish Subban was and how defensively irresponsible it was for him to go for the hit instead of playing D. These people can't have it both ways. If you're going to roast Subban, you need to do the same when it's Weber or Petry or Markov or Emelin. And if you're not going to roast Weber for what he did tonight, then why were these prejudiced analysts bashing Subban for the same play? Not a commentary on Weber's worth by any means, because sometimes the big hit is worth it, but it sickens me to see this illustrate just how unfair a deal Subban got here.

 

media ≠ fairness

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