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#65 Andrew Shaw

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Position: Centre
Shoots: Right
Birthplace: Belleville, ON, CAN 6UKXtFw.png
Birth date: 20 July 1991
Age: 25
Height: 5' 11"
Weight: 179 lbs
Drafted by: Chicago
Draft Year: 2011 Round 5 (139th Overall)

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16 hours ago, ramcharger440 said:

the longer he is around the less useful he seems to be. never liked this signing.

Its frustrating because has skills.  There have been some games where you think YES! This is what we got this guy for, but he never seems to be able to do it consistently.

 

He looked a lot better under Julien last year but has not found his groove yet this season, although aside from a handful of guys, who has? 

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On 10/22/2017 at 9:19 AM, ramcharger440 said:

well i am not a big fan but credit where it is due, he was really good in the last game.

if he plays like that every night, you'll be  a big fan - we all will.  Julien needs to harness his abilities.  He has the skills and vision to be an impact player on the 3rd line.  He just needs to be kept in check and played with the right guys.  

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15 minutes ago, H_T_L said:

Still looking for his 1st goal despite getting some premium time on the 1st wave of the PP. How much are we paying this guy again?

Too much.  

We've had this problem for years (even before MB) where we overpay for players who are in our bottom 6 or bottom 3 defenders.    

Andrew shaw at $2m a year or something is no big deal - and probably a valuable part of the roster.  Andrew Shaw at almost $4m per year for 6 years is pretty silly.

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5 hours ago, maas_art said:

Too much.  

We've had this problem for years (even before MB) where we overpay for players who are in our bottom 6 or bottom 3 defenders.    

Andrew shaw at $2m a year or something is no big deal - and probably a valuable part of the roster.  Andrew Shaw at almost $4m per year for 6 years is pretty silly.

That alone makes him unmovable.

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49 minutes ago, kinot-2 said:

That alone makes him unmovable.

Leafs found a way to move Clarkson awhile back and I don't think Shaw's deal is as bad as that one was. A decent GM should be able to find a way. All we need to do is find a decent GM first.

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8 hours ago, kinot-2 said:

That alone makes him unmovable.

 

7 hours ago, H_T_L said:

Leafs found a way to move Clarkson awhile back and I don't think Shaw's deal is as bad as that one was. A decent GM should be able to find a way. All we need to do is find a decent GM first.

GM's will stay away from term BUT the advantage for Shaw is that he's still relatively young. It's not like Shaw signed his deal when he was 28 or 29 and this will carry him into his mid-30's. It was a bad contract on our part, it was silly to deal Eller to be able to fit Shaw in, and it was even worse that we downgraded our 2nd rounders to do it, but there's still some hope the contract can be moved, as long as Bergevin admits to yet another mistake.

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4 hours ago, BigTed3 said:

 

GM's will stay away from term BUT the advantage for Shaw is that he's still relatively young. It's not like Shaw signed his deal when he was 28 or 29 and this will carry him into his mid-30's. It was a bad contract on our part, it was silly to deal Eller to be able to fit Shaw in, and it was even worse that we downgraded our 2nd rounders to do it, but there's still some hope the contract can be moved, as long as Bergevin admits to yet another mistake.

Agreed. Your pool of GMs who would be interested in Shaw at that price is slim but I think you'd have offers from a handful of teams.  Would they be good? tough to say but considering he doesnt really fit a huge need for us, i would imagine we could get something that is a better fit for this club than Andrew Shaw. 

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8 hours ago, maas_art said:

Agreed. Your pool of GMs who would be interested in Shaw at that price is slim but I think you'd have offers from a handful of teams.  Would they be good? tough to say but considering he doesnt really fit a huge need for us, i would imagine we could get something that is a better fit for this club than Andrew Shaw. 

I don't know whether Chicago could find a way to make the cap hit work, but we know the Hawks were disappointed to let Shaw go (or so they said). We also know they've repatriated a number of players whom they previously let go. So maybe they'd find a way to take Shaw back?

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40 minutes ago, BigTed3 said:

I don't know whether Chicago could find a way to make the cap hit work, but we know the Hawks were disappointed to let Shaw go (or so they said). We also know they've repatriated a number of players whom they previously let go. So maybe they'd find a way to take Shaw back?

Give us our 2 draft picks back and call it a day?

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1 hour ago, Habberwacky said:

I don't mind keeping him, although he still has the odd mental lapse he seems to work well with Max and Phil.  Perhaps doing that crosscheck, spearing jab warm up is allowing him to deal with those impulse control problems that get him into penalty trouble during the game.

I think Shaw has value. He can be effective, but there are two issues:

- He is fairly undisciplined and takes bad penalties at bad times.

- He is used much more than he should be. There are nights where he is one of the top 3 forwards in ice time and that really shouldn't be the case. He's a decent bottom 6 player, but he shouldn't be getting first line ice time and he doesn't play well enough to justify either his contract nor having dealt two 2nd rounders in a deep draft year to acquire. I'd personally rather have DeBrincat and Samuel Girard.

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3 hours ago, BigTed3 said:

I think Shaw has value. He can be effective, but there are two issues:

- He is fairly undisciplined and takes bad penalties at bad times.

- He is used much more than he should be. There are nights where he is one of the top 3 forwards in ice time and that really shouldn't be the case. He's a decent bottom 6 player, but he shouldn't be getting first line ice time and he doesn't play well enough to justify either his contract nor having dealt two 2nd rounders in a deep draft year to acquire. I'd personally rather have DeBrincat and Samuel Girard.

I think Danault still has some upside and is only going to get better and Shaw is going to be challenged to keep improving if he is going to stay on that line.. Julien has really done a good job  limiting the ice-time with some of our young guys looking to the future I believe. It is a long season and some of these guys  are going to struggle from time to time. Shaw can play a similar game to Gallagher and if he continues to model his play after Gallagher he will have a pretty good year. 20 goals is attainable if he continues with Patches and Danault..

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