ramcharger440 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 he better find a way to spend that cap space on someone good mighty fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs1952 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 MB is the biggest hole we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwlk Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 41 minutes ago, habs1952 said: MB is the biggest hole we have. lol, id rather keep our 1st than have MB trade it for a hard working grinder, this guy traded for john scott, im scared of who he would want to trade for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff33 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 3 hours ago, habs1952 said: MB is the biggest hole we have. gettting rid of him is number 1 with a bullet. absolutely critical. first time in my life I am rooting for losses. we make our cynical comments as fans, but its so so critical. he is so deep in his delusion its mind boggling. OUT before you do any more damage. ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 21 hours ago, jeff33 said: gettting rid of him is number 1 with a bullet. absolutely critical. first time in my life I am rooting for losses. we make our cynical comments as fans, but its so so critical. he is so deep in his delusion its mind boggling. OUT before you do any more damage. ASAP Doesn't he have 4-5 more years to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff33 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 22 minutes ago, kinot-2 said: Doesn't he have 4-5 more years to go? technically yeah but therrien had term left too. he is under heavy scrutiny by the fan base, the team is losing, and i cant imagine he survives if we have a bad year and miss the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldag Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 42 minutes ago, kinot-2 said: Doesn't he have 4-5 more years to go? Unbelievably he is in the first year of a five year extension Molson lavished upon him in November 2015 and it runs through 2021-2022 season. Molson called him the best general manager in the league at the time. Then he went ahead and traded Subban at the end of that very season and the rest as they say .... is history folks. This guy ain't goin' anywhere for a long time yet folks .... Turn out the lights ..... the party is over ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 9 hours ago, eldag said: Unbelievably he is in the first year of a five year extension Molson lavished upon him in November 2015 and it runs through 2021-2022 season. Molson called him the best general manager in the league at the time. Then he went ahead and traded Subban at the end of that very season and the rest as they say .... is history folks. This guy ain't goin' anywhere for a long time yet folks .... Turn out the lights ..... the party is over ....... Well, if we fire him early we can use the $8 million in unused cap money to pay his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 hours ago, jennifer_rocket said: Well, if we fire him early we can use the $8 million in unused cap money to pay his salary. Or we can hire another GM and raise ticket prices again to cover the costs of paying two guys to do the same job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldag Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 hours ago, jennifer_rocket said: Well, if we fire him early we can use the $8 million in unused cap money to pay his salary. Wouldn't that be nice if they could? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs1952 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 14 hours ago, kinot-2 said: Doesn't he have 4-5 more years to go? The 1st 5 years were plan A. Now they've moved on to plan B. You and I won't be around when plan Z starts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 1 minute ago, habs1952 said: The 1st 5 years were plan A. Now they've moved on to plan B. You and I won't be around when plan Z starts! That's what I'm afraid of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 We often talk about Bergevin's obsession with "Grit and Character" but i also think he has a fetish for pedigree. If you look at guys we've acquired or signed, how many were former first rounders? Drouin, Danault, Alzner, Montoya, Hemsky, Morrow etc. even guys like Weber and Petry were very high 2nd rounders. Its like MB is constantly looking for affirmation: Well this other team took him high in the draft so he must be good because even he doesnt have faith in his own talent assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwlk Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 can we trade MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted October 17, 2017 Report Share Posted October 17, 2017 6 hours ago, BigTed3 said: Or we can hire another GM and raise ticket prices again to cover the costs of paying two guys to do the same job. Who might, in turn, fire Julien... and we can pay two GMs and three head coaches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramcharger440 Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 Well i am done with this guy! what is going to sink him is the leftover cap space, all the odd and some very bad moves he has made are one thing but to come into the year with one whole side of you d corps a huge question mark one of you main offensive talents pretty much felling like you want to kick him to the curb and a couple more project signings to try and make the playoffs with? you have to be short on grey matter to think that will fly in Montreal! and to have let Rads slip away! one of the most exciting players we have seen here in 20 years! then to let Marky just leave after all the years he played at a very high level here! the man is a fool. plain and simple there is no excuse for what is going on here with all those bad decisions in one off season and then to have all the cap space and still not pull the trigger on some kind of deal is a GM killer it will be here too at some point unless a very big rabbit gets pulled out of a roughly 8 million dollar hat really really soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, ramcharger440 said: what is going to sink him is the leftover cap space, A commentator this summer made an interesting point: We've handicapped ourselves, icing a $67m roster in a league full of $75m rosters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs1952 Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 more losses on this trip and I think MB is gone. 2 more losses and we'll be saying the past Leaf mantra : "Maybe next year"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis22 Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, ramcharger440 said: there is no excuse for what is going on here with all those bad decisions in one off season and then to have all the cap space and still not pull the trigger on some kind of deal is a GM killer I think that extra cap space was an accident . The plan was to sign Markov and Radulov and he supposedly stiffed them so they left . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwlk Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Regis22 said: I think that extra cap space was an accident . The plan was to sign Markov and Radulov and he supposedly stiffed them so they left . accident or not im sure molson is happy with that extra 8 million, its all about the money, and 8mill is alot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 30 minutes ago, habs1952 said: 2 more losses on this trip and I think MB is gone. 2 more losses and we'll be saying the past Leaf mantra : "Maybe next year"! We kept saying the same thing about MT and look how long that took. I'll believe it when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, H_T_L said: We kept saying the same thing about MT and look how long that took. I'll believe it when I see it. Except that MT was tied to MB. Letting MT go was at least a partial nod to MB that "fix this, or you're next." Molson said that when PK was to be traded he was concerned but Bergevin "explained his plan" so he (Molson) gave his blessing. Now that we're over a year later & that "vision" has gotten blurred, would it not be time to right the ship Geoff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs=stanleycup Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, maas_art said: Except that MT was tied to MB. Letting MT go was at least a partial nod to MB that "fix this, or you're next." Molson said that when PK was to be traded he was concerned but Bergevin "explained his plan" so he (Molson) gave his blessing. Now that we're over a year later & that "vision" has gotten blurred, would it not be time to right the ship Geoff? Molson seems as tied to MB as MB was to MT, so I see no changes on the horizon unless the fans show it by hurting sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs=stanleycup Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 3 hours ago, ramcharger440 said: Well i am done with this guy! what is going to sink him is the leftover cap space, all the odd and some very bad moves he has made are one thing but to come into the year with one whole side of you d corps a huge question mark one of you main offensive talents pretty much felling like you want to kick him to the curb and a couple more project signings to try and make the playoffs with? you have to be short on grey matter to think that will fly in Montreal! and to have let Rads slip away! one of the most exciting players we have seen here in 20 years! then to let Marky just leave after all the years he played at a very high level here! the man is a fool. plain and simple there is no excuse for what is going on here with all those bad decisions in one off season and then to have all the cap space and still not pull the trigger on some kind of deal is a GM killer it will be here too at some point unless a very big rabbit gets pulled out of a roughly 8 million dollar hat really really soon. This was a BIG mistake which cost us our offence. Had we retained Radulov AND acquired Drouin we'd be in better shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldag Posted October 18, 2017 Report Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Habs=stanleycup said: This was a BIG mistake which cost us our offence. Had we retained Radulov AND acquired Drouin we'd be in better shape. Actually I don't think things would be much different because we would still have the worst defense in the NHL. The slide began when PK was traded. I think when MB got Molson's blessing on that he felt invincible. Hence, it has been one stupid move after another to arrive at the wreck you see before you now. Until people stop buying tickets and merchandise however, nothing will change. Until Molson starts seeing the $$$ losses mounting he will continue to do nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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