habs1952 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 3 hours ago, jwlk said: http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/the-habs-should-try-positive-reinforcement-with-alex-galchenyuk this explains AG situation to a tea The hockey news is late with that story. Positive reinforcement has been espoused here on the forum by BigTed and others for over a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs=stanleycup Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 56 minutes ago, habs1952 said: The hockey news is late with that story. Positive reinforcement has been espoused here on the forum by BigTed and others for over a year. As Stu pointed out again on the last HIO show, along with Galchenyuk seems to come a lot of baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldag Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Habs=stanleycup said: As Stu pointed out again on the last HIO show, along with Galchenyuk seems to come a lot of baggage. Yes ... two main bags commonly known as Bergevin and Therrien ..... This poor kid's whole personality and demeanour have changed based on the most recent interviews I have seen with him vs when he first broke into the line-up. MB and MT screwed this guy's head up and destroyed his confidence the way they tried to destroy P.K. Fortunately ... Subban had a much stronger sense of self and he survived. I hope GallyA can still come around in Montreal but I worry about how Julien is handling him. While he is a superior tactician to Therrien he is also not famous for handling young players well and tends to be very old school. We saw a bit of this last season in his stubborn preference for plugs like King and Ott down the stretch and this is one of the reasons he wore out his welcome in Boston. Is GallyA another #1 draft pick for this franchise that has been ruined in Montreal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis22 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 13 hours ago, eldag said: Is GallyA another #1 draft pick for this franchise that has been ruined in Montreal? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Management seems to want everyone to be Bob Gainey, Guy Carboneau, Rod BrindAmour type players. You have to be able to play 2 way hockey. You have to be able to grind and 'get dirty.' If you dont, you're pushed down the lineup or, eventually, traded. If they truly think we can win with a whole team full of 2 way players (I dont) then fine, stop drafting creative players. Take the 'safe bet' 40 point 2 way forwards and stack your team with them. Drafting a guy like Galchenyuk and then trying to fit this very round peg into a very square hole is just ludicrous. We should have taken Forsburg or better yet, traded the 3rd overall for a pair of top 20 picks and drafted 2 grinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwlk Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, maas_art said: Management seems to want everyone to be Bob Gainey, Guy Carboneau, Rod BrindAmour type players. You have to be able to play 2 way hockey. You have to be able to grind and 'get dirty.' If you dont, you're pushed down the lineup or, eventually, traded. If they truly think we can win with a whole team full of 2 way players (I dont) then fine, stop drafting creative players. Take the 'safe bet' 40 point 2 way forwards and stack your team with them. Drafting a guy like Galchenyuk and then trying to fit this very round peg into a very square hole is just ludicrous. We should have taken Forsburg or better yet, traded the 3rd overall for a pair of top 20 picks and drafted 2 grinders. maybe u should apply for GM, with any luck there will be an opening soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs1952 Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, maas_art said: Management seems to want everyone to be Bob Gainey, Guy Carboneau, Rod BrindAmour type players. You have to be able to play 2 way hockey. You have to be able to grind and 'get dirty.' If you dont, you're pushed down the lineup or, eventually, traded. If they truly think we can win with a whole team full of 2 way players (I dont) then fine, stop drafting creative players. Take the 'safe bet' 40 point 2 way forwards and stack your team with them. Drafting a guy like Galchenyuk and then trying to fit this very round peg into a very square hole is just ludicrous. We should have taken Forsburg or better yet, traded the 3rd overall for a pair of top 20 picks and drafted 2 grinders. Forsburg was my choice at the time. It seems you can't go wrong picking a Swede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwlk Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 3 hours ago, habs1952 said: Forsburg was my choice at the time. It seems you can't go wrong picking a Swede. who's to say the same thing wouldn't have happened to him, we just need to put our skilled players in positions to succeed, that's how you win, you dont win with shaw, Danault, hemsky and 4th liners like that, there a dime a dozen and don't belong in the top 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted October 13, 2017 Report Share Posted October 13, 2017 Byron, Shaw, Mitchell, Etc & all of the defence don't have as much talent as Galchenyuk. So we seriously need to get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwlk Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 there's no one in the farm to replace any of them lol, they are stuck here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldag Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 13 hours ago, HabsRuleForever said: Byron, Shaw, Mitchell, Etc & all of the defence don't have as much talent as Galchenyuk. So we seriously need to get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldag Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 ... it sounds funny and maybe way too premature in a normal year but this does not seem like a normal year to me. Tonight's 5th game of the season is HUGE for this team and its immediate future. If the Leafs ring their Bell at the Ding Dong Centre the season may well be cooked with a west coast road trip staring the team in the face and their confidence shot. Conversely ... if the team comes out swift on the attack and exploits T.O.'s most notable weakness on "D" and in the net ... they could salvage some respect and begin building a team identity. Tall order? You bet ... I just don't believe the talent level of this team is even adequate to compete. Tonight will go a long way to answering a lot of questions. If they get smoked ..... they will be plucking the chickens and boiling the tar on the call in shows and even Bergevin's mastery over the missing owner Molson may not allow him to escape taking the long walk off the short plank ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Galchenyuk back at practice today. Schlemko recalled but not at practice. Plekanec misses practice with flu-like symptoms. Perhaps an opening for someone else to play center? Awaiting the line combos from practice today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 No changes on D, Schlemko not expected to play. Up front: Pacioretty-Drouin-Lehkonen Hudon-Danault-Shaw Byron-De La Rose-Gallagher Galchenyuk-Mitchell-Hemsky So DLR gets to move up to center. Just look at the lengths the team is going to to not play Galchenyuk in the middle. And they wonder why they're not selling tickets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs_93 Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Shaw on the second line. Galchenyuk on the fourth. That's a winning lineup, alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis22 Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 Look at that fourth line - three players the team doesn't want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis22 Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, BigTed3 said: Plekanec misses practice with flu-like symptoms. Perhaps an opening for someone else to play center? Shaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis22 Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 1 hour ago, eldag said: If the Leafs ring their Bell at the Ding Dong Centre the season may well be cooked with a west coast road trip staring the team in the face and their confidence shot. Conversely ... if the team comes out swift on the attack and exploits T.O.'s most notable weakness on "D" and in the net ... they could salvage some respect and begin building a team identity. Tall order? You bet ... I just don't believe the talent level of this team is even adequate to compete. Tonight will go a long way to answering a lot of questions. If they get smoked ..... they will be plucking the chickens and boiling the tar on the call in shows and even Bergevin's mastery over the missing owner Molson may not allow him to escape taking the long walk off the short plank ..... Their D and goalie aren't that bad And even so, they can score LEAFS 6 HABS 1 Probably 2 or 3 nothing after the first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs=stanleycup Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 HIO Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs=stanleycup Posted October 14, 2017 Report Share Posted October 14, 2017 'The Montreal Canadiens can still count on Carey Price and adding Jonathan Drouin should help, but winning a Cup with a goalie as your best player is hard to do and draft day hasn’t been kind to them for years.' https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2017/10/14/wobbly-habs-play-for-today-with-future-less-bright-cox.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs1952 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Habs=stanleycup said: 'The Montreal Canadiens can still count on Carey Price and adding Jonathan Drouin should help, but winning a Cup with a goalie as your best player is hard to do and draft day hasn’t been kind to them for years.' https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2017/10/14/wobbly-habs-play-for-today-with-future-less-bright-cox.html The Habs take stupid pills the morning of draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 My D Power Rankings for the season to date: 1. Mete 2. Weber 3. Petry 4. Alzner 5. Davidson 6. Benn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, BigTed3 said: My D Power Rankings for the season to date: 1. Mete 2. Weber 3. Petry 4. Alzner 5. Davidson 6. Benn By default,,, Mete can't be sent down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldag Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 My Observations from tonight Relatively boring game with ragged play by both teams Majority of Habs shots are from the perimeter which pad their SOG Defensive play in own end for Canadiens is brutal Mete showed some savvy and skating ability ... he will have his ups and downs but appears a solid rookie on "D" Thought Petry had a couple of nice plays as did Weber .... otherwise meh for the "D" Forwards appear disorganized and lacked flow .... did Pacioretty play tonight or was he merely invisible. Drouin is a truly talented player which separates him from just about everyone else on the team however I noticed he disappeared in the 3rd period ..... I thought Plekanec played a decent game and Gallagher and Shaw gave respectable efforts but same old same old ..... hands of stone. Byron also honourable mention .... the rest were interchangeable drek ...... I was happy to see GallyA get a goal albeit he took the rest of the night off. The $10MM man looked average and allowed two so so goals including the game winner. Power Play is awful ......... This result was probably the best they could hope for against the high flying Leafs who I thought were very average in their effort. Matthews was ordinary until he scored the game winner which is what superstars do I guess ..... The outlook for the team is bleak as previously predicted and I would be very surprised to see any points come out of their west coast trip although San Jose has looked shaky out of the gate. If they go zip for California they will come home with 3 out of a possible 16 points for the first 8 games at which point the yard sale should shift into high gear. Sad man ....... sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habby67 Posted October 15, 2017 Report Share Posted October 15, 2017 These days you can win Cups with good goalies. A number of those have done so the past several years. Look at Niemi, Murray, Cam Ward, Quick. A guy like Lindgren could win if he had the team in front of him. I am not so confident in Price any longer. Something has to change, a new goalie coach? Something. There are too many facets of the game which are floundering for this team, all at the same time. I would not be surprised to see the team come home 0-3 after their road trip. So when does the panic set in at that point I say.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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