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41 minutes ago, jennifer_rocket said:

Also, De La Rose has been signed to a 2-year contract AAV $900,000.

Decent deal for a 4th liner.  I still wonder if he has a higher ceiling than he's shown but have no problem with him in the lineup.

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Great article by Eric Engels here: Time for Canadiens GM Bergevin to level with fans

 

"We now know that when Montreal Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin stood up at his July 1 press conference and talked about icing a competitive, young and fast team that should be able to make the 2019 Stanley Cup Playoffs, he wasn’t selling hope; he was selling a fantasy.

You have to wonder what good could possibly come from that."

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14 hours ago, jennifer_rocket said:

 

Montreal and Toronto are similar regarding taxes, I do believe. JT obviously felt that Toronto was prepared for immediate success. That Montreal wasn't even considered says a lot about what JT's camp thinks about our future prospects.

If it hasn't already, I think that MB's poor managerial decisions will eventually start to haunt him. Is Tavares friends with Subban? I wonder if they've ever had a conversation about playing in Montreal and Montreal's current management team... :mellow:

Montreal is definitely worse than Toronto for taxes, but I also believe Montreal would have been willing to go to 12 or 13 million. Obviously, Toronto was a special-case here, but not even being allowed to make a pitch given Montreal's desperation for a number on center (aka - assume big money) doesn't look good. 

JT basically admitted on Prime Time Sports that it was the current state of the Leafs that drew him there. People dream of winning the cup with their childhood team, not merely wearing the jersey. The Leafs were the joke of the league for so many years, it's no coincidence once they actually have a good team, competent management group, and clear vision, they were able to get JT at a small discount. 

Montreal for many years wasn't a great team, but under Savard, Gainey, and early Bergevin, you felt like the management team more or less had it together. Gauthier's last season was a circus, but he was out the door quickly. Winning a cup is hard, mistakes were made (Gainey didn't seem to grasp managing in the salary cap era well, I never liked Carbo as coach, etc), but for the most part you felt like the team knew what it was doing, and it had plenty of decent playoff runs to show for it.  Now we're basically the Leafs of the last decade - a rudderless mess of a team the rest of the league is laughing at. 

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22 minutes ago, jennifer_rocket said:

Danault and Armia have filed for salary arbitration. I guess that protects them against offer sheets. I imagine deals will get done before the hearing.

lol,

 

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This team / organization is a joke .

No # 1 or # 2 C

No top pairing D men followed by  a bunch of # 5 , 6 , 7 and AHL'ers who could skate the puck through pylons

16 + forwards all the same type .

THE worst Habs team EVER , an expansion Team isn't this bad

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5 hours ago, Regis22 said:

This team / organization is a joke .

No # 1 or # 2 C

No top pairing D men followed by  a bunch of # 5 , 6 , 7 and AHL'ers who could skate the puck through pylons

16 + forwards all the same type .

THE worst Habs team EVER , an expansion Team isn't this bad

think about last year and fans and pundits were saying we were a playoff team,potential division winner.

Ive been on this wagon since day 1, this is brutal. theres nothing to be excited about at ALL

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https://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/hockey-inside-out/what-the-puck-promises-promises-canadiens-inaction-speaks-volumes

Montreal Canadiens president Geoff Molson promised to make the team better and to be more transparent, and he's reneged on both promises.

The gap between what Geoff Molson says and what the Montreal Canadiens organization actually does just keeps widening.

 

Words matter. If you are going to make promises, don’t renege on them. Habs fans feel betrayed today and with good reason. The Montreal Canadiens is not just another company. It is one of the most important brands in Quebec and the people of this province have a heavy emotional investment in their hockey team. This is our team.

Molson heads a consortium that owns this National Hockey League team, but the true owners are the fans and it’s time to stop treating the real shareholders like they’re worth nothing.

At the end of the season, Molson — president of the Montreal Canadiens — promised two things. He said, loud and clear at the post-season news conference, that he and his colleagues would do everything to ice a better more competitive team next season and that the organization would be more transparent. So far, he has failed to deliver on both promises.

Let’s start with the transparency. I began to think the pledge for more openness was a hollow promise when news broke that the Habs had hired Paul Wilson to head their communications department. Wilson is a partner in National Public Relations, a PR firm controlled by Geoff’s brother Andrew Molson. Wilson is the ultimate insider/corporate old boy, and my hunch that he’d be the last person to be open and forthcoming was confirmed when I heard him being interviewed by my pal Mike Finnerty on CBC Radio’s Daybreak shortly after it was announced he was joining the Canadiens. He dodged every question, frustrating both Finnerty and his audience. You promise transparency and then the guy running the new transparency campaign refuses to answer even the most basic questions. It’s just so wrong.

Now comes the bombshell that star defenceman Shea Weber underwent arthroscopic surgery and will be out until at least December — and there goes the Habs’ season. But the real news here is when the surgery took place — June 19. So when GM Marc Bergevin took the podium on July 1 to give his free-agency news conference — a rambling, incoherent presentation — he already knew that his most important player other than Carey Price was going to be on the sidelines for a big chunk of the season.

Yet he didn’t tell the media. Instead Bergevin stubbornly refused to use the word “rebuild” and kept insisting he would be fielding a competitive team come October. Even with the Man Mountain, that was a stretch of a statement. Without Weber, it’s simply untrue.

So much for transparency. Bergevin didn’t lie, but he didn’t tell the truth. If you say you are going to be open and honest, be open and honest or I’m going to be unhappy. To repeat, don’t treat your fans as if they’re idiots.

At the end of a disastrous season, Molson said: “The real message is we weren’t good enough and we have to get better. And changes are coming so we can get better. That’s the real message.”

He also reneged on that promise. The team isn’t better. If you are a rose-coloured-glasses type, you might argue they’re the same as last season, when they finished 28th out of 31 teams, but there have been no improvements. There was one notable trade — Alex Galchenyuk for Max Domi — and most of us think the Arizona Coyotes come out on the better end of that deal. At best it’s a wash. The one “big” free-agency pickup was the league’s most famous turtleneck model, Tomas Plekanec. Plek, who adds little to the equation at this point, was with the Habs for most of the season, so that’s also — at best — a wash.

So it’s not an improved team. The Canadiens are, in all likelihood, going to suck. And don’t start with the nonsense that this is a rebuild. It isn’t. Bergevin tried to go after big free agents like John Tavares and Paul Stastny, and would’ve been happy to give them multi-year big-bucks contracts. The only reason he didn’t is that no free agent with any value is going to touch a losing franchise like the Habs with a 10-foot-pole. And if you have hugely expensive older players in your lineup — hello, Carey and Shea — then you’re not in rebuild mode.

The Habs aren’t in a rebuild, they’re in disarray. There is no plan and there never was, and the fans have had enough. A friend who has season tickets recently got a message from the Canadiens offering to let him upgrade his tickets. When he investigated the offer, he discovered there were about 500 pairs of season tickets available. That’s unprecedented. Season tickets are never widely available so, apparently, hundreds of Habs fans did not renew. My pal estimated a pair costs about $7,000 on average, so that’s a cool $3.5 million that the Canadiens might be losing. A team spokesperson said the Habs do not disclose how many season-ticket holders there are or how many have renewed. He only said the team was satisfied with the renewal process at this point. Did I mention something about a lack of transparency? Why wouldn’t you tell the public how many season-ticket holders there are?

Fans sending back their season tickets is great news because the only way change is going to come is via financial pressure. Clearly fan discontent isn’t enough.

But until the pressure mounts, the promises will remain empty pledges.

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On www.tsn.ca

Poulin: Time for Bergevin and Price to have a conversation

Carey Price's eight-year $84M contract kicks in next season, but with their fortunes turning, is it time for the Canadiens to look at dealing the star netminder? TSN Hockey analyst Dave Poulin explains why he believes it is time for Price and GM Marc Bergevin to have a conversation

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2 hours ago, Regis22 said:

On www.tsn.ca

Poulin: Time for Bergevin and Price to have a conversation

Carey Price's eight-year $84M contract kicks in next season, but with their fortunes turning, is it time for the Canadiens to look at dealing the star netminder? TSN Hockey analyst Dave Poulin explains why he believes it is time for Price and GM Marc Bergevin to have a conversation

Convincing Price (who is over 30 and may never have a chance to win a cup as a Canadien) to waive his NMC to go to a contender? Easy.

Convincing a Rival GM that Price is still the best Goalie in the game & worth considerably assets in return?  Tough, but probably doable to a handful of GMs. 

Convincing Marc Bergevin its time to move on from Carey Price?  Nigh Impossible. 

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7 hours ago, maas_art said:

Convincing Price (who is over 30 and may never have a chance to win a cup as a Canadien) to waive his NMC to go to a contender? Easy.

Convincing a Rival GM that Price is still the best Goalie in the game & worth considerably assets in return?  Tough, but probably doable to a handful of GMs. 

Convincing Marc Bergevin its time to move on from Carey Price?  Nigh Impossible. 

I think MB's "plan" is to "retool" the team over the next few years and keep Carey around, believing that when the team is competitive again (whenever that is) Carey will still be the best goaltender and we'll have a new Cup window with him between the pipes. I'm doubtful Carey would get traded. Unless a new manager came on board.

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