maas_art Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 per TSN Habs name Bouchard coach of AHL's Rocket Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Cool. Seems like a move everyone is saying makes sense for our organization! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 It definitely won't be any worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 58 minutes ago, jennifer_rocket said: Cool. Seems like a move everyone is saying makes sense for our organization! 27 minutes ago, Manatee-X said: It definitely won't be any worse! Ya. What is frustrating is that it looks like we finally have great coaches at every level of the organization...but way too late. Imagine this group in Montreal and Laval back in say 2013-14 ? How many of our failed prospects would be NHL regulars now? Would we have made boneheaded moves because our coaching staff couldnt handle our stars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 A step in the right direction for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs1952 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 50 minutes ago, kinot-2 said: A step in the right direction for sure. Time will tell. I don't think MB has a very good record of hiring great coaches. He can't even evaluate players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 38 minutes ago, habs1952 said: Time will tell. I don't think MB has a very good record of hiring great coaches. He can't even evaluate players. Love your new pic,,,,,,, is it a selfi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 At least he's getting away from hiring friends. Somebody must have learned a lesson down the road. Not easy canning people you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 Marc Bergevin has announced that Sylvain Lefebvre’s assistants will also not be returning. "Marc Bergevin confirmed that both Donald Dufresne and Nick Carrière will not be back as assistant coaches in Laval next season." per habs' twitter. So far the coaching moves have all been really positive. I am still very dubious MB can turn this club around without a rebuild or retool but getting a little more optimistic with the off-ice moves so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 hours ago, H_T_L said: At least he's getting away from hiring friends. Somebody must have learned a lesson down the road. Not easy canning people you know. That's why you don't hire friends, even if you think they are the best coach available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 33 minutes ago, maas_art said: Marc Bergevin has announced that Sylvain Lefebvre’s assistants will also not be returning. "Marc Bergevin confirmed that both Donald Dufresne and Nick Carrière will not be back as assistant coaches in Laval next season." per habs' twitter. So far the coaching moves have all been really positive. I am still very dubious MB can turn this club around without a rebuild or retool but getting a little more optimistic with the off-ice moves so far. The moves seem to be headed in the right direction. I still wonder if Ducharme and Bouchard are the best candidates available or the best Francophone candidates available though, and the Habs have earned that doubt being cast over them. For my part, Bergevin needs to do a lot more than this. Landing Tavares would be great, but more realistically, he has to show more of an appreciation for youth and skill over pluggers and attitude/grit, and his end of year press conference suggests he hasn't learned that lesson yet. I'm still afraid he will trade Galchenyuk for a poor return and that he will try to add veterans rather than dealing the likes of Weber or Price or so on for high picks and NHL-ready prospects. You want a 1C? That's the type of move you need to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs=stanleycup Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 52 minutes ago, BigTed3 said: The moves seem to be headed in the right direction. I still wonder if Ducharme and Bouchard are the best candidates available or the best Francophone candidates available though, and the Habs have earned that doubt being cast over them. For my part, Bergevin needs to do a lot more than this. Landing Tavares would be great, but more realistically, he has to show more of an appreciation for youth and skill over pluggers and attitude/grit, and his end of year press conference suggests he hasn't learned that lesson yet. I'm still afraid he will trade Galchenyuk for a poor return and that he will try to add veterans rather than dealing the likes of Weber or Price or so on for high picks and NHL-ready prospects. You want a 1C? That's the type of move you need to make. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted May 17, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, BigTed3 said: The moves seem to be headed in the right direction. I still wonder if Ducharme and Bouchard are the best candidates available or the best Francophone candidates available though, and the Habs have earned that doubt being cast over them. For my part, Bergevin needs to do a lot more than this. Landing Tavares would be great, but more realistically, he has to show more of an appreciation for youth and skill over pluggers and attitude/grit, and his end of year press conference suggests he hasn't learned that lesson yet. I'm still afraid he will trade Galchenyuk for a poor return and that he will try to add veterans rather than dealing the likes of Weber or Price or so on for high picks and NHL-ready prospects. You want a 1C? That's the type of move you need to make. Totally agree. Right now I have a sense of optimism with regards to some of our young players and some of our new draft picks because i dont feel like they'll be mishandled as we've seen for 6 years - but we still have to fix the huge holes in our main roster. Like you, i worry we will trade futures for a prayer. And why wouldn't we? MB has to know he has probably one year to impress. Does he trade, one of our vets for NYI's 1st round picks who almost certainly wont help this year - and get fired - or does he trade Galchenyuk for Toews who will make us better for a couple of years? Its why, quite apart from the fact that I dont think he can build a winner, that I wanted MB gone: Even if he had an epiphany and is now capable of building a team, he's got to be in damage control mode meaning watch for bad long-term trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs=stanleycup Posted May 17, 2018 Report Share Posted May 17, 2018 38 minutes ago, maas_art said: Totally agree. Right now I have a sense of optimism with regards to some of our young players and some of our new draft picks because i dont feel like they'll be mishandled as we've seen for 6 years - but we still have to fix the huge holes in our main roster. Like you, i worry we will trade futures for a prayer. And why wouldn't we? MB has to know he has probably one year to impress. Does he trade, one of our vets for NYI's 1st round picks who almost certainly wont help this year - and get fired - or does he trade Galchenyuk for Toews who will make us better for a couple of years?Its why, quite apart from the fact that I dont think he can build a winner, that I wanted MB gone: Even if he had an epiphany and is now capable of building a team, he's got to be in damage control mode meaning watch for bad long-term trades. That's the reality unfortunately, we're stuck with MB and he will never learn. Stanley Cup begone until we are rid of Molson & Bergevin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs1952 Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 7 hours ago, kinot-2 said: Love your new pic,,,,,,, is it a selfi? Just call me Frank! Ever seen the show Shamelss? (American verson) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 44 minutes ago, habs1952 said: Just call me Frank! Ever seen the show Shamelss? (American verson) Never seen it or even heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted May 18, 2018 Report Share Posted May 18, 2018 The Canadiens have confirmed that assistant coaches Nick Carrière and Donald Dufresne will not be back next year and that Larry Carrière has been removed as GM of the Rocket. Larry Carrière is very close to Bergevin, however, he'll stay within the Canadiens organization as a special senior advisor. Joël Bouchard will have total freedom when it comes to choosing his new assistant coaches and it looks like he'll have a hand in player decisions as well even if the GM position will remain vacant at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East_Coast_Juggalo_13 Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 0:11 PM, maas_art said: Ya. What is frustrating is that it looks like we finally have great coaches at every level of the organization...but way too late. Imagine this group in Montreal and Laval back in say 2013-14 ? How many of our failed prospects would be NHL regulars now? Would we have made boneheaded moves because our coaching staff couldnt handle our stars? I would've liked to have seen what guys like Bouchard and Ducharme could've done for a Nathan Beaulieu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis22 Posted May 21, 2018 Report Share Posted May 21, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 4:09 PM, kinot-2 said: That's why you don't hire friends, even if you think they are the best coach available. They are former team mates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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