tony5775 Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Filling the LD spot should of been done already and should of been MB,s main job this summer. Instead he was content to make headlines with his offer sheet, which was never going to happen. He seems only interested in keeping his high profile job and scrapping by. Calgary still needs to clear cap space and T.J. Brodie has to be available at a pretty low price. Not being able to play LD because he prefers right makes no sense to me. If MB makes the move to get a guy like Brodie, the scoring from the wingers will take care of itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campabee82 Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, tony5775 said: Filling the LD spot should of been done already and should of been MB,s main job this summer. Instead he was content to make headlines with his offer sheet, which was never going to happen. He seems only interested in keeping his high profile job and scrapping by. Calgary still needs to clear cap space and T.J. Brodie has to be available at a pretty low price. Not being able to play LD because he prefers right makes no sense to me. If MB makes the move to get a guy like Brodie, the scoring from the wingers will take care of itself. Two issues with taking Brodie for me 1. He PREFERS the right side not that he can't play the left just he PREFERS the right like Benn 2. Gardiner is still available for nothing but cap hit. He is a gamble but no doubt is skilled offensively. I would rather offer 5.5-6 for 1-2 years as a prove it contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 48 minutes ago, campabee82 said: 1. He PREFERS the right side not that he can't play the left just he PREFERS the right like Benn He prefers right but the stats also indicate he's quite a bit more effective there too. FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramcharger440 Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Were good we just need to get better. LHD will be a big step i think it may be enough but i would be fine with a top tier forward too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 Cole Caulfield today stated that he "expects to play on the same line as Turcotte next year"... which would suggest he also expects to be headed the University route next season. Don't believe he's committed yet, but it would suggest that that's where he and the Habs see him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26NCounting Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 Priorities: Sign a LHD D man Fire MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs1952 Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 5 hours ago, 26NCounting said: Priorities: Sign a LHD D man Fire MB Priority of priorities......Fire MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 Okay, see I've been waiting for a reason to actually be mad at MB, and now I have an actual reason Gusev traded to Devils for 2nd and 3rd. Signs 2 year 4.5 million dollar deal. Why couldn't we do this!? https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1804245 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booboo_mtl Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 37 minutes ago, habsisme said: Okay, see I've been waiting for a reason to actually be mad at MB, and now I have an actual reason Gusev traded to Devils for 2nd and 3rd. Signs 2 year 4.5 million dollar deal. Why couldn't we do this!? https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/1804245 to be fair, it's $4.5 AAV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 22 minutes ago, booboo_mtl said: to be fair, it's $4.5 AAV Yes but we could have easily afforded that and 2 years is perfect for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis22 Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 1 hour ago, habsisme said: Yes but we could have easily afforded that and 2 years is perfect for us There would not have been a spot for him in the top 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 Just now, Regis22 said: There would not have been a spot for him in the top 6 he'd probably be our best right winger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramcharger440 Posted July 29, 2019 Report Share Posted July 29, 2019 1 hour ago, habsisme said: he'd probably be our best right winger yeah but we don't really need wingers. LHD all the way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, ramcharger440 said: yeah but we don't really need wingers. LHD all the way! its not happening. This was an actual possibility. I don't forsee any trades for LHD, I don't know why ppl still think it will happen. Hope youre right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramcharger440 Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, habsisme said: its not happening. This was an actual possibility. I don't forsee any trades for LHD, I don't know why ppl still think it will happen. Hope youre right thats pretty negative? i don't see any reason we can't improve we have the chips to do it we need it just get it done. we don't need a superstar just a good mobile LHD who can skate and pass that is not 3 feet tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs1952 Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, ramcharger440 said: thats pretty negative? i don't see any reason we can't improve we have the chips to do it we need it just get it done. we don't need a superstar just a good mobile LHD who can skate and pass that is not 3 feet tall. We have the chips but we don't have the GM who knows how to cash them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, ramcharger440 said: thats pretty negative? i don't see any reason we can't improve we have the chips to do it we need it just get it done. we don't need a superstar just a good mobile LHD who can skate and pass that is not 3 feet tall. how many trades happen this time of year? Who is even realistically available? Maybe t the trade deadline but til then, I dont see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campabee82 Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, habsisme said: how many trades happen this time of year? Who is even realistically available? Maybe t the trade deadline but til then, I dont see it I hate to be negative as well but habsisme is right there are just not a lot of teams willing to trade during August unless they are trying to get cap compliant headed into September. That being said there are still options this year cause of the large number of RFA's unsigned and their teams are mostly over or at the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26NCounting Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Our GM is almost as incompetent as Dorian in Ottawa, he made the Habs look silly with that stupid offer sheet, he hasn't filled in the whole at LD our glaring weakness. He could have made the deal to acquire Marleau for that extra first round pick with all that cap space but no he is sitting in a corner pulling his pin. It's time to see this bafoon go down the road kicking stones! The cookie monster would be a better GM than MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 I don't think Bergevin is necessarily incompetent, but he does have a job to do and he's not been "successful" in accomplishing certain goals. For me, this has got to be Bergevin's last kick at the can. If we cannot make the post-season this year and if he cannot improve the D, he's got to go. You can't have 7+ years to manage a team and accomplish so little. I appreciate some of the moves he's made and some of the more recent drafting he's done, but it's not enough. A team like Montreal needs to be more competitive than it has been since Marc took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpem-can Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 7 hours ago, jennifer_rocket said: I don't think Bergevin is necessarily incompetent, but he does have a job to do and he's not been "successful" in accomplishing certain goals. For me, this has got to be Bergevin's last kick at the can. If we cannot make the post-season this year and if he cannot improve the D, he's got to go. You can't have 7+ years to manage a team and accomplish so little. I appreciate some of the moves he's made and some of the more recent drafting he's done, but it's not enough. A team like Montreal needs to be more competitive than it has been since Marc took over. I have to agree that the leash will shorten dramatically if Montreal misses the play-offs again this year but I don't think Begevin is incompetent (except for the Alzner contract). Also it would be fair to point out that they barely missed the play-offs this year and that the player turn-over from the previous year amounted to 17 players ...with captain Pacioretty and Galchenyuk gone with Weber out till Xmas and Byron injured Montreal still managed to beat that season by 25 points . Byron will replace Shaw's production if he plays a full season and Chiarot is imo an upgrade over Benn .The season hasn't started and teams rarely do trades in Aug . nor do I think Bergevin is finished yet ...I'd rather reserve judgment until the roster is set and the season is under way..I believe they will improve on 96 points with a hungry roster and some moving parts wanting to prove something . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff33 Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Our RW depth BEFORE trading Shaw, was gallagher shaw armia/lehkonen weal/whoever which was absolutely not good enough as it was, and then we traded shaw for cap space we didnt use, and now just passed up a perfectly affordable top 6 winger. you poor guys thinking he is going to do something....he is going to get a guy from waivers and trade a plug for a different plug and beyond that I do not hold my breath. there's no plan and this guy is not serious about winning. its about creating the illusion and keeping his job. unless everything goes unbelievably right, which would be no testament to bargain boy anyway, I would expect similar results to last year. bubble team that needs everything to go right to get into the playoffs, with no real horses to make a serious run either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff33 Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 8 hours ago, jennifer_rocket said: I don't think Bergevin is necessarily incompetent, but he does have a job to do and he's not been "successful" in accomplishing certain goals. For me, this has got to be Bergevin's last kick at the can. If we cannot make the post-season this year and if he cannot improve the D, he's got to go. You can't have 7+ years to manage a team and accomplish so little. I appreciate some of the moves he's made and some of the more recent drafting he's done, but it's not enough. A team like Montreal needs to be more competitive than it has been since Marc took over. very reasonable take. well said. at the end of the day, we appreciate that trading and drafting and signing free agents is hard...but thats literally what your job is. if its too hard go be a suit model. leafs needed a top rd, they traded a good player and got one so did NYR. so did NJ. The chiarot signing is just like the epitome of the bergevin habs. honestly, even a playoff appearance that ends in a 1st round fizzle out is more than enough reason to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpem-can Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 30 minutes ago, jeff33 said: very reasonable take. well said. at the end of the day, we appreciate that trading and drafting and signing free agents is hard...but thats literally what your job is. if its too hard go be a suit model. leafs needed a top rd, they traded a good player and got one so did NYR. so did NJ. The chiarot signing is just like the epitome of the bergevin habs. honestly, even a playoff appearance that ends in a 1st round fizzle out is more than enough reason to move on. Montreal will have more points than Toronto with their top right hand d -man come next April..how's that for a prediction ? ...only 9 more months to go to find out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted July 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2019 There's no need for the doom and gloom predictions. I'm sure MB is working hard on the new T-shirt slogan as we speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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