2019-20 State Of The Habs

[kinot-2]

Habs lose a combined 7 games to NJ, Det., and the Sens. 14 PTs. down the drain. Those PTs. would have put us 2 PTs. behind the ruins.

 

[HabsRuleForever]

5 minutes ago, kinot-2 said:

Habs lose a combined 7 games to NJ, Det., and the Sens. 14 PTs. down the drain. Those PTs. would have put us 2 PTs. behind the ruins.

 

Sounds like last year.

[campabee82]

3 minutes ago, HabsRuleForever said:

Sounds like last year.

Except last year it was decent teams fighting for the same playoff spot this year it's teams that are last in the league and actively tanking for the draft.

[kinot-2]

Ya know, nothing is worse than making GDTs when we are officially eliminated from the POs. 

[HabsRuleForever]

1 minute ago, campabee82 said:

Except last year it was decent teams fighting for the same playoff spot this year it's teams that are last in the league and actively tanking for the draft.

Not those three.

[campabee82]

Just now, HabsRuleForever said:

Not those three.

We beat Detroit last year according to TSN we were 8-0-0 vs them before this season's losses

[habs1952]

Stick a fork in 'em. Done like dinner! 

[kinot-2]

1 minute ago, habs1952 said:

Stick a fork in 'em. Done like dinner! 

Tiger Williams.

 

[HabsRuleForever]

15 minutes ago, campabee82 said:

We beat Detroit last year according to TSN we were 8-0-0 vs them before this season's losses

Yeah I think it was mostly NJ we couldn’t beat. 

[campabee82]

12 minutes ago, campabee82 said:

We beat Detroit last year according to TSN we were 8-0-0 vs them before this season's losses

Last year we were 4-0-0 vs Detroit, 3-0-1 vs Ottawa and 0-2-1 vs New Jersey but I see your point

[HabsRuleForever]

4 minutes ago, campabee82 said:

Last year we were 4-0-0 vs Detroit, 3-0-1 vs Ottawa and 0-2-1 vs New Jersey but I see your point

Wins against NJ could/may have put us in the playoffs.

[campabee82]

1 minute ago, HabsRuleForever said:

Wins against NJ could/may have put us in the playoffs.

Totally like I said I see your point

[kinot-2]

We've lost 17 games by 1 goal, most in the NHL. 

[HabsAlways]

1 hour ago, kinot-2 said:

We've lost 17 games by 1 goal, most in the NHL. 

And I blame that on two things :  Coaching and lack of elite talent.    We have a mediocre lineup (not counting the rising stars), with nobody that really is a game breaker.

[ChiLla]

Three NHL teams currently have more regulation losses than wins at home, two of them are right at the bottom of the standings and the third one is us. Also, no other team has lost more more 1-goal games this year than we did. Our PK still leaves a lot of room for improvement, we concede just way too many goals in general, and our goaltening hasn't been good all season. All in all, even though we started off rather strong, good teams don't go on extended losing streaks. Twice.

Alhough we can theoretically still make it, I don't think it's possible with this roster. Getting into the playoffs would require us to play what, ~.700 hockey? That essentially means we'll have to be one of the top 5 teams in the league for the next ~40 games, which I don't see happening.

 

[26NCounting]

It's seriously time to clean house, our PP has been the lone bright spot IMO.  The entire coaching staff and front office should be removed!!  I understand injuries are a big part of our current predicament but this team is playing dreadful hockey, I have been a huge Price supporter but the guy has seriously got to go or stick him in the minors it's time to move on.  Thompson and Cousins are decent 4th lines but should never be on the PP I would much rather go back to the 2 D on the points option rather than having those 2 plugs out there.  End of the rant for today!

[jennifer_rocket]

Losing to Detroit AGAIN this season!  Is that our third loss to them? We don't deserve to make the post-season if we're going to lose that many times to, literally, the worst team in the league.

Goaltending is mediocre. Defense is pretty bad. Our general manager probably won't address either of these issues in the short-term (FINGERS CROSSED ROMANOV SAVES OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION! LOL ). This is the team built in Bergevin's image. It's not good. It certainly doesn't seem like a playoff team.

I'm also frustrated that we aren't using this injury "opportunity" to use Jesperi Kotkaniemi with some scoring wingers. Poehling should be in Laval. Cousins should be on the fourth line or in the pressbox. Player development in Montreal's organization sometimes feels like this: "Have you ever shown offensive skill at any level? Yes? How long can you tolerate being used in a non-offensive role in the minors or at the NHL level?"

[HabsAlways]

Back in June, Carey said :

“A lot of guys you see go through their whole careers and not get an opportunity (to win a Stanley Cup),” Price told Basu. “I don’t want to be one of those guys.”

I can see him asking to be traded given how this is playing out.   At this point he's definitely not on a team bound for the finals this year, and doubtful he will be on one with the Habs for another 2-3.   

[ChiLla]

19 minutes ago, HabsAlways said:

Back in June, Carey said :

“A lot of guys you see go through their whole careers and not get an opportunity (to win a Stanley Cup),” Price told Basu. “I don’t want to be one of those guys.”

I can see him asking to be traded given how this is playing out.   At this point he's definitely not on a team bound for the finals this year, and doubtful he will be on one with the Habs for another 2-3.   

It's definitely a possibility. He clearly deserves a shot at the Cup and it's clear that he's not getting that chance here.

[HabsAlways]

Imma just leave this here ... instead of a MN thread maybe we can track our lottery odds :

PICK	TEAM	RECORD	PTS	PPG	ROW	STREAK	L10	TOP 3	#1 OVR
1	Detroit	11-30-3	25	0.568	11	Won 1	2-8-0	49.4%	18.5%
2	Ottawa	16-22-5	37	0.860	16	Lost 5	2-5-3	38.8%	13.5%
3	Los Angeles	17-23-4	38	0.864	17	Lost 2	4-5-1	33.9%	11.5%
4	New Jersey	15-20-7	37	0.881	13	Lost 2	5-3-2	28.8%	9.5%
5	Anaheim	17-21-5	39	0.907	13	Lost 1	3-6-1	26.1%	8.5%
6	San Jose   OTT	19-22-4	42	0.933	17	Lost 2	3-5-2	23.3%	7.5%
7	Montreal	18-19-7	43	0.977	16	Lost 7	2-7-1	20.4%	6.5%

[tony5775]

48 minutes ago, HabsAlways said:

Back in June, Carey said :

“A lot of guys you see go through their whole careers and not get an opportunity (to win a Stanley Cup),” Price told Basu. “I don’t want to be one of those guys.”

I can see him asking to be traded given how this is playing out.   At this point he's definitely not on a team bound for the finals this year, and doubtful he will be on one with the Habs for another 2-3.   

Cannot see any team paying him 10.5 million playing the way he has been. We are stuck with him through the entire contract. 

[claremont]

1 minute ago, tony5775 said:

Cannot see any team paying him 10.5 million playing the way he has been. We are stuck with him through the entire contract. 

I don’t see Seattle taking him in the 2021 draft if he’s left unprotected like Fleury was by Pittsburgh/ Las Vegas plus he has a NMC and would have to approve it . 

Bergevin is ever the eternal optimist fool by thinking guys can return to their previous elite form by picking up so many plug retreads - it’s time for him to be bounced 

I hope Carey could return to elite form but he has to believe in the team around him which won’t happen for a couple of years 

 

 

 

[26NCounting]

The real let down IMO is the D has been playing better of late, it's Carey himself who is letting them down

[arpem-can]

22 minutes ago, 26NCounting said:

The real let down IMO is the D has been playing better of late, it's Carey himself who is letting them down

I don't know if I can agree with this . Although Price  for sure hasn't been  himself this year last night he made several spectacular saves  when he was hung out to dry ...too many examples of blown coverage and giveaways every game often resulting in prime chances on goal . This is probably more a case of the whole team playing crappy defensive hockey in front of Price and our goalies playing sub-par. Too many 2 on 1 and breakaways every game . Detroit out-worked us on the boards . The system has broken down . Though our rookies have comported themselves decently well one goal last night was a blown coverage by Suzuki and another was a blown tire by Chiarot leading directly to goals . Poehling was so -so and Fleury was caught up ice and out of position but so then was Petry and Mete . Then there was the miscommunication between Weber and Chiarot leading to a breakaway goal. Last game miscommunication and giveaway by Price and the defence led directly  to a Winnipeg goal….it's  every game now and the mistakes are magnified . There would be less mistakes with Gallagher , Drouin , Armia and even Byron in the line-up but that's not a real excuse either .Everyone is gripping the stick too tightly these days  ..

[maas_art]

1 hour ago, tony5775 said:

Cannot see any team paying him 10.5 million playing the way he has been. We are stuck with him through the entire contract. 

Never underestimate the 'nostalgia' factor with GMs.   Someone out there (i would actually guess several someones) would trade for Carey in a heartbeat. I think there are plenty of rival GMs who believe that if you put price behind a good defense he will be unstoppable.  

The problem is that after a couple of not-so-great stretches the last few years the return you would get for him would be paltry imho. 

 

1 hour ago, claremont said:

I don’t see Seattle taking him in the 2021 draft if he’s left unprotected like Fleury was by Pittsburgh/ Las Vegas plus he has a NMC and would have to approve it . 

I also dont believe he would waive his NMC (although playing in Seattle does put him a lot close to home so you never know).  I believe that if he was available they would happily snap him up.  

 

28 minutes ago, arpem-can said:

I don't know if I can agree with this . Although Price  for sure hasn't been  himself this year last night he made several spectacular saves  when he was hung out to dry ...too many examples of blown coverage and giveaways every game often resulting in prime chances on goal . This is probably more a case of the whole team playing crappy defensive hockey in front of Price and our goalies playing sub-par.

All year long he's made some spectacular saves - but then he lets in some stinkers. Its like his concentration just isnt there.   I feel like he has the skills to be elite still, but im not sure the head-space is there right now.