claremont Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 11 hours ago, Windoe said: Some talk about Getzlaf out there as a Habs playoff rental target with Perry: Tatar-Danault-Gallagher Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson Toffoli-Getzlaf-Perry Lehkonen-Kotkaniemi-Armia 10 hours ago, habsisme said: I heard that too but barring injury, we already have a very good line up and we don't have the cap space to bring in anyone. Already we have Poehling, Perry, and Frolik on the taxi squad when no one is injured. It's clear to me that Perry has earned a spot on the line up but I don't see who we can sit to give him a spot. The only deadline deals I can envision is for defensive depth where salary is retained. I don't expect much movement. I wonder when Poehling or Frolik get into the lineup. I understand they want Poehling practicing with the team as better for his development curve, but or left side is currently pretty strong so barring injury LW us unlikely to be a spot for Poehling. Perhaps against a weaker team like Ottawa, Poehling gets a shot down the middle to step in for Evans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windoe Posted February 4, 2021 Report Share Posted February 4, 2021 28 minutes ago, claremont said: I wonder when Poehling or Frolik get into the lineup. I understand they want Poehling practicing with the team as better for his development curve, but or left side is currently pretty strong so barring injury LW us unlikely to be a spot for Poehling. Perhaps against a weaker team like Ottawa, Poehling gets a shot down the middle to step in for Evans? Yeah I think that's likely his chance to get in the lineup, which would be a good thing to keep both Poehling and Evans growing. For a deadline Getzlaf deal, Anaheim would have to be out of playoff contention, and retain most of his cap hit to make that deal work for us. Both of those are possible though, so its an interesting idea to reunite the two of them here for a run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26NCounting Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 PD is a wasted space on the third line, he has 13 shots on net so far this season the lowest amongst all MTL centers. He is not playing a great defensive game and certainly isn't an offensive player. Evans would be a better fit on the third line with more speed more offensive skills and I think better defensive game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26NCounting Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 19 hours ago, claremont said: I wonder when Poehling or Frolik get into the lineup. I understand they want Poehling practicing with the team as better for his development curve, but or left side is currently pretty strong so barring injury LW us unlikely to be a spot for Poehling. Perhaps against a weaker team like Ottawa, Poehling gets a shot down the middle to step in for Evans? They could always take Byron's spot what a wasted roster spot, the money he makes for what he brings to the team is ridiculous. 10 shots on goal and 3 points, he is supposed to be a speedster but I certainly haven't seen that so far. Frolik may not be as fast but I'm sure what he lacks in speed would make up for in veteran savy . We have played well and I like this line up for the most part but a couple of tweaks (Byron & PD) could be done and certainly not really hurt the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron58 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 23 minutes ago, 26NCounting said: They could always take Byron's spot what a wasted roster spot, the money he makes for what he brings to the team is ridiculous. 10 shots on goal and 3 points, he is supposed to be a speedster but I certainly haven't seen that so far. Frolik may not be as fast but I'm sure what he lacks in speed would make up for in veteran savy . We have played well and I like this line up for the most part but a couple of tweaks (Byron & PD) could be done and certainly not really hurt the team Actually, my preference would be Byron. I mentioned that previously because I don't believe that he would be picked up if placed on waivers and put on the taxi squad. Yes, he is fast, but he is not producing and we have numerous players to use on penalty kill. Frolic would be more creative. We can't take any chances putting PD on taxi squad, because he does have some value in a trade, and, he just may be our own rental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 2 hours ago, electron58 said: Actually, my preference would be Byron. I mentioned that previously because I don't believe that he would be picked up if placed on waivers and put on the taxi squad. Yes, he is fast, but he is not producing and we have numerous players to use on penalty kill. Frolic would be more creative. We can't take any chances putting PD on taxi squad, because he does have some value in a trade, and, he just may be our own rental. Remember that if you do put Byron on waivers (taxi squad or minors) and he clears, we are still on the hook for 2.3m+ in cap hit. The most you can bury is just over $1m Paul Byron at $3.4m is a bit hard to swallow but if you're paying him $2.3m in cap space to not even be on the roster? Id rather keep him with the team. He's a jack of all trades and can be put on the ice in pretty much all situations. Guys like Perry and Frolik are good players - great in some aspects - but neither are super stars defensively (any more anyway) and I think we'd find a guy like Perry a lot less effective if he played every game this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron58 Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 6 hours ago, maas_art said: Remember that if you do put Byron on waivers (taxi squad or minors) and he clears, we are still on the hook for 2.3m+ in cap hit. The most you can bury is just over $1m Paul Byron at $3.4m is a bit hard to swallow but if you're paying him $2.3m in cap space to not even be on the roster? Id rather keep him with the team. He's a jack of all trades and can be put on the ice in pretty much all situations. Guys like Perry and Frolik are good players - great in some aspects - but neither are super stars defensively (any more anyway) and I think we'd find a guy like Perry a lot less effective if he played every game this year. Just looking for a way to get Frolik in the lineup. Putting Byron on the taxi squad will do it. If, and I mean If PB gets claimed, that frees up cap space that gives Bergy room to make a move down the road. Byron, is no longer essential, as we do have players on cheaper contracts who can do the same thing. And we have an abundance of penalty killers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis22 Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 https://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/hockey-inside-out/what-the-puck-canadiens-carey-price-back-to-his-inconsistent-ways What the Puck: Canadiens' Carey Price back to his inconsistent ways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 On 2/6/2021 at 12:15 PM, Regis22 said: https://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/nhl/hockey-inside-out/what-the-puck-canadiens-carey-price-back-to-his-inconsistent-ways What the Puck: Canadiens' Carey Price back to his inconsistent ways Yup. IMO he had better start living up to his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron58 Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 37 minutes ago, kinot-2 said: Yup. IMO he had better start living up to his salary. Before it's too late! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26NCounting Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Tossing this out there.......... What about asking CP to waive his NM clause to enter the expansion draft and toss Seatle a 1st rnd pick to take him, would need to with that contract. Keep Allen as a mentor for Primeau. After watching the Habs/ Sens game on Sat I see no reason why PD is even in our line up. For being a great PK defensive C he was awful. Lost 4 of 5 face offs on the PK was very slow getting into position for coverage. Totally not worth any more money than he makes now, in fact I would move him before he becomes a distraction again IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 I am willing to be patient with Danault. I mean, who is gonna replace him in the lineup? Poehling? I doubt it. He's struggling to begin the season, yes. His line needs to contribute more offense, yes. All it takes is one game. Just one solid game for the line and we may see Danault and co. come alive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptWelly Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Danault is still leading the team in face offs and actually has set up Gally and Tatar quite a few times. He has had several great looks and been in position to get those chances. Yes he has been snake bit and hasn't capitalized. That said if he no offensive talent he wouldn't of even been in position to get those chances. He does 100% need to be able to finish. I believe if he gets that first one they'll start to go in. All the talk about a #1 center not getting goals , there have been several throughout the years that have been playmakers set up man not scorers. All those years Hull was scoring Oates didn't score a lot himself. Also with all the other centers pout there take away all their points on PP and then compare. Danault gets no PP time and because they're either set up goals or out numbers goals PP goals are easier goals. Either way he hasn't been scoring but he still has been playing good. There have been several games or periods his line has been the best line out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 hours ago, jennifer_rocket said: I am willing to be patient with Danault. I mean, who is gonna replace him in the lineup? Poehling? I doubt it. He's struggling to begin the season, yes. His line needs to contribute more offense, yes. All it takes is one game. Just one solid game for the line and we may see Danault and co. come alive! Agree. The other thing is that if you were to pull him from the lineup (wont happen, but if you did) suddenly Suzuki and JK get a lot more attention. Right now Julien has the luxury that most nights, one or more line should be clicking. So far it hasnt been Danault's but until/unless we get a proper replacement for him (and no, Poehling isnt one, yet) I wouldnt be so fast to toss him aside. He's actually not scoring that much lower than usual- .41ppg vs his career .50 - and im sure the defensive gaffes will stop soon enough. He's already looked (a little bit) better than he did early in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CANADIENS27 Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 How far along is Primeau in his development? I asked before about his potential and did get a response, but what are some of the members' assessment of Primeau's potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, CANADIENS27 said: How far along is Primeau in his development? I asked before about his potential and did get a response, but what are some of the members' assessment of Primeau's potential? Always tough to say with a goalie. He stumbled a bit last year but Laval wasnt good. Its possible he could play today as an NHLer but its also possible he could need a couple more years. Definitely dont want to rush him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 Fleury and Poehling sent to the minors today - this appears to be more about the Laval season starting soon & wanting to get both players some playing time. It will be interesting to see if we have anyone else called up - right now the squad is just Frolik and Lindgren. Perry presumably will go back on the squad once Armia is ready (possibly Wednesday) but this means we have no dmen on hte taxi squad (we have 7 on the regular roster). Will be interesting to see what happens. Glad to see Fleury and Poehling poised to play at least, even if its just the minors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 37 minutes ago, maas_art said: Fleury and Poehling sent to the minors today - this appears to be more about the Laval season starting soon & wanting to get both players some playing time. It will be interesting to see if we have anyone else called up - right now the squad is just Frolik and Lindgren. Perry presumably will go back on the squad once Armia is ready (possibly Wednesday) but this means we have no dmen on hte taxi squad (we have 7 on the regular roster). Will be interesting to see what happens. Glad to see Fleury and Poehling poised to play at least, even if its just the minors. Given that our AHL affiliate is so close, it wouldn't take much to get any of out player back up to the NHL. All of Laval is a taxi squad as far as I'm concerned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted February 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 I think the idea of a taxi squad is that guys can move from there to the team without having to go through quarantine. I imagine it's not as simple as just calling someone up from Laval despite them being close by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campabee82 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 4 hours ago, H_T_L said: I think the idea of a taxi squad is that guys can move from there to the team without having to go through quarantine. I imagine it's not as simple as just calling someone up from Laval despite them being close by. Also if the team is in let's say Alberta for a west coast swing then having the taxi squad right there in a back to back situation means no flying a guy from Laval to say Calgary then playing later that day with jetlag or lack of sleep or lost luggage or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron58 Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 7 hours ago, H_T_L said: I think the idea of a taxi squad is that guys can move from there to the team without having to go through quarantine. I imagine it's not as simple as just calling someone up from Laval despite them being close by. From Andrew Zadarnowski Final note, I asked Joel Bouchard on the protocol on going between the NHL taxi and AHL, and he mentioned that guys are tested daily, and that theoretically, a player can be available for the Habs same day from the Rocket. No quarantine period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted February 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 5 hours ago, electron58 said: From Andrew Zadarnowski Final note, I asked Joel Bouchard on the protocol on going between the NHL taxi and AHL, and he mentioned that guys are tested daily, and that theoretically, a player can be available for the Habs same day from the Rocket. No quarantine period. Well that's surprising news to me. Why bother having a taxi squad if players can flow freely from their AHL team to the NHL if testing is the only requirement? Doesn't make sense at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 34 minutes ago, H_T_L said: Well that's surprising news to me. Why bother having a taxi squad if players can flow freely from their AHL team to the NHL if testing is the only requirement? Doesn't make sense at all. 9 hours ago, campabee82 said: Also if the team is in let's say Alberta for a west coast swing then having the taxi squad right there in a back to back situation means no flying a guy from Laval to say Calgary then playing later that day with jetlag or lack of sleep or lost luggage or whatever. I think it really is meant for the road games or when a team isn't so close to their affiliate. For example, there are Canadian teams, whose AHL affiliate is in the US. Not everyone is as lucky as the habs are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Armia back with full contact at practice today. Decent chance he'll be back either tomorrow or thursday (he's been skating pretty much the whole time so the only thing that could be a holdup would be timing). Perry still rotating with him but probably only a matter of time before Armia reclaims his spot. Interestingly Frolik was rotating in on 4th line. Im sure he wont play but it looks like if we lose someone to injury, they will likely only bring in frolik (over Perry) if its a 4th liner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted February 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 As of Monday, the Canadiens had $1,768,785 in salary-cap space, according to CapFriendly.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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