H_T_L Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Expecting Monty gets the net for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booboo_mtl Posted October 30, 2021 Report Share Posted October 30, 2021 Expecting another L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs1952 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 It's gonna be a Hallowe'en Horror Show for the Habs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 hours ago, H_T_L said: Expecting Monty gets the net for this one. Yes and no. Yes, it makes sense after Allen didn't play well to switch it up. But on the other hand, I've said many times that a great time to fire a coach is at the end of a long road trip on your way home. If we are heading home 2-8 after losing to a series of bottom feeders, does Ducharme feel that puts his job in jeopardy? Maybe he feels like this is a must-win to keep his job... this team has lost to Buffalo, San Jose, LA, Seattle... those are not good teams. Anaheim is also expected to be bad. So if you are going home 2-8 with 5 of your losses to teams not expected to make the playoffs, how will you do when facing TB, Bos, Was, LV, or so on? Doesn't bode well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Justone more game where we can sit bback and suffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archey Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 I'm making the snowy owl My official bird. Hope springs eternal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campabee82 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, archey said: I'm making the snowy owl My official bird. Hope springs eternal I am making the Habs official bird a raven because ravens signify death or mourning, and we have definitely been witnessing the death of the Habs since the beginning of MB's tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 23 minutes ago, campabee82 said: I am making the Habs official bird a raven because ravens signify death or mourning, and we have definitely been witnessing the death of the Habs since the beginning of MB's tenure. The thing is, they haven't been good for a long time. Last year, they finished just 3 points over .500 in a very weak division and barely snuck into the playoffs, narrowly avoided elimination in Game 5 of Round 1, then rode Price to a long playoff run despite awful coaching. Two years ago, they finished at .500 (and I'll remind everyone that .500 is below average given the fact loser points are given for OTL's) and missed the playoffs by finish, only sneaking in as the 24 overall seed because the league expanded the play-in because of COVID. The two years before that, they also missed the playoffs and in 2017-18 were well below .500. In 2016-17 they had a strong regular season but got knocked out of the playoffs in 6 games in round 1 to a wildcard team. In 2015-16, they were also a below-average team that played .500 hockey. So count them up. Assuming we go on to miss the playoffs this year and remove the technicality of qualifying as a 24-seed two years ago, and we will have missed the playoffs in 5 of the past 7 years. In another season, we sneaked in as the lowest-ranked playoff team playing in a weak division. So we've had one good regular season out of 7. We essentially missed the playoffs three years in a row in the middle of this span, which has only happened twice before in team history. Missing the playoffs in 5 of 7 years has never happened before in team history. So yes, we continue to spiral down towards further levels of poor play, but look at the trend and this has been ongoing for years. The best part of MB's tenure was the first 2-3 years when he inherited a roster that was much-better built my his predecessors. We had the best goalie in the league in his prime, we had one of the best D men in the league in his prime, we had one of the top goal-scorers in the league in his prime, we had a still-effective Tomas Plekanec and Andrei Markov and a strong 3C in Eller, we had up-and-coming Brendan Gallagher, and we had a 3rd overall pick. There were definitely still holes in that roster, but the core to build around was there and we actually had elite talent at several positions. MB was handed a Cup window on a silver platter and not only did he fail to capitalize on his core's window, he made the team worse and hasn't identified another window in which he's planning on contending. He would rather be mediocre every year than be a legit contender for a 3-5 year run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis22 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 11 hours ago, BigTed3 said:this team has lost to Buffalo, San Jose, LA, Seattle... those are not good teams It could argued that Montreal is not a good team either 😂🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Even if we do lose, I would encourage everyone to think positively on the future! We've got some decent pieces here with Suzuki, Caulfield, and Romanov. I really feel like this is MB's last season. Not meaning to kick a dead horse, but it just feels like his tenure has run its course. If we continue to lose to bottom-feeders, it's probably an indication that we aren't good and we'll maybe get a good draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archey Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 hours ago, campabee82 said: I am making the Habs official bird a raven because ravens signify death or mourning, and we have definitely been witnessing the death of the Habs since the beginning of MB's tenure. I don't know about Harry Potter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 hour ago, jennifer_rocket said: Even if we do lose, I would encourage everyone to think positively on the future! We've got some decent pieces here with Suzuki, Caulfield, and Romanov. I really feel like this is MB's last season. Not meaning to kick a dead horse, but it just feels like his tenure has run its course. If we continue to lose to bottom-feeders, it's probably an indication that we aren't good and we'll maybe get a good draft pick. I don't have optimism on the Bergevin front because the guy has had 9 lives that would have had other GMs fired by now. As for our other pieces, I absolutely think we can build around Suzuki, Caufield, etc. Less hopeful about the way Romanov had played. But at the end of the day, my question is this: are these guys better than the younger players other teams have? Are they better than Ottawa's young core with Tkachuk, Norris, Sanderson, Chabot, Stutzle, etc? I'm not feeling that. Are they better than Anaheim with the likes of Zegras, Drysdale, and so on? New Jersey's young core? The Rangers? Carolina's? Vancouver with Pettersen and Hughes and so on? We have nice young pieces but I'm going to come back to this time and again: who are our truly elite pieces? We had Price and Subban and Pacioretty, who were all arguably elite at their positions. Right now, do we have a top 10 center in the league? Top 10 winger? Top 10 D man? Top 10 goalie? Not sure we have any of those things and as good as Suzuki and Caufield might get, not sure they will ever be elite players. If I'm in charge, I'm doing what I can to acquire an elite center like Eichel, as they rarely become available in their prime. And I'm hanging on to my 1st rounder this year (we're not allowed to trade it anyways until the conditions in the Dvorak trade are established) and hoping I get a top 3 pick there too. Build around that. We've already missed the window with our current core and we've missed the opportunity to trade away the likes of Weber, Price, Gallagher, etc. while they had value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted October 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Really getting a strong feeling that one or both of MB and DD will have pink slips waiting for them back in Montreal if we play another stinker today. The media pressure has to be at an all time high back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron58 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 What's the fastest a coach has been fired, after signing a new contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron58 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 We not only lost to a team that was decimated on defense by injuries, but we lost to a team that was on a 6 game losing streak! Teams gotta be checking their calendars, to see when they play the Habs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted October 31, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, electron58 said: What's the fastest a coach has been fired, after signing a new contract? You would think that alone would be reason to lose your job if your the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron58 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Answering the poll, is what I want to happen, not necessarily, what is going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron58 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, electron58 said: What's the fastest a coach has been fired, after signing a new contract? 1 minute ago, H_T_L said: You would think that alone would be reason to lose your job if your the GM. and there have been a lot of reasons............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsRuleForever Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Another trick today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CzechHab Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Today I'll be able to watch at least a part of this game. Not sure if it's a good idea, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Perreault out 2-3 weeks with eye injury. Gallagher and PEtry both questionable game-time decisions with injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 Brooks in for Perreault. Wideman in for Niku. Montembeault in for Allen. If Petry, can't go, Niku draws back in. If Gallagher can't go, then either Niku as 7th D if Petry plays or Evans at less than 100% if no one else can go. Getting thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 21 minutes ago, BigTed3 said: Brooks in for Perreault. Wideman in for Niku. Montembeault in for Allen. If Petry, can't go, Niku draws back in. If Gallagher can't go, then either Niku as 7th D if Petry plays or Evans at less than 100% if no one else can go. Getting thin. Who's on first again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 34 minutes ago, CzechHab said: Today I'll be able to watch at least a part of this game. Not sure if it's a good idea, though... C'mon, you can suffer with the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted October 31, 2021 Report Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, kinot-2 said: Who's on first again? I don't know. THIRD BASE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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