kinot-2 Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, H_T_L said: My hope now is that Wright ( assuming we pick him) is not the reincarnation of Wickenheiser. <shudders to think of that> Maybe Hayley Wickenheiser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 Suzuki, Wright, and Caufield is the nucleus of a championship offense. Next we need to find our elite D man. We have a lot of good young ones though now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, kinot-2 said: <shudders to think of that> There was a lot of hoopala back then too. Can't miss top line player. What a bust that was considering we passed on Savard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-2 Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, H_T_L said: There was a lot of hoopala back then too. Can't miss top line player. What a bust that was considering we passed on Savard. I remember whoever picked him said "You can't discount those 86 goals". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manatee-X Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, maas_art said: Finally, FINALLY we know why this happened: And poor Bergevin isn't even around to reap the fruits of his labour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, kinot-2 said: Let the speculations begin. Interesting with NJ picking 2nd I think its likely they either take Nemec or Slav. They are set down the middle so i cant see them taking Cooley (assuming we select Wright). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Manatee-X said: And poor Bergevin isn't even around to reap the fruits of his labour! Yeah,,,, irony at it's best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, H_T_L said: My hope now is that Wright ( assuming we pick him) is not the reincarnation of Wickenheiser. There's eerie parallels in the type of players they are too - but you have to hope that nhl scouting is much better now but it is always a crapshoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, maas_art said: Interesting with NJ picking 2nd I think its likely they either take Nemec or Slav. They are set down the middle so i cant see them taking Cooley (assuming we select Wright). He probably would have traded that pick for a couple character guys to attempt to get back into the playoff race. Never say die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, maas_art said: There's eerie parallels in the type of players they are too - but you have to hope that nhl scouting is much better now but it is always a crapshoot. There are tons of similarity IMO. The little i've seen of Wright has been anything but overwhelming.. I sincerely hope i'm dead wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claremont Posted May 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, habsisme said: Suzuki, Wright, and Caufield is the nucleus of a championship offense. Next we need to find our elite D man. We have a lot of good young ones though now. It’s a good youthful start - Also nice to have some size and durability down the middle With him from Burlington and playing out of Kingston in junior, Wright has to be happy himself that he’s going into familiar territory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, H_T_L said: There are tons of similarity IMO. The little i've seen of Wright has been anything but overwhelming.. I sincerely hope i'm dead wrong. One thing of note, I read a great article a couple of years ago where they hypothesized the problem wasnt in drafting him but rather in how they developed him. His first full year after his trade to St Louis he had great numbers - nearly a point a game- and then sufferered a bad (off ice) knee injury that he never recovered from. At that time i think he was like 23 so he certainly could have been a late bloomer. Overall i think Wickenheiser was just a really sad story but in any event I am confident if we pick Wright it wont be the same issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 I found the article, if anyone is interested. A different take on the wickenheiser saga anyway:https://recrutes.ca/wickenheiser-mistake-dont-blame-scouts/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 Kind of happy we beat out the yotes for that last spot now. That could have easily been us bumped out of 2nd by Jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claremont Posted May 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, H_T_L said: There are tons of similarity IMO. The little i've seen of Wright has been anything but overwhelming.. I sincerely hope i'm dead wrong. Well if you loaded up Kingston Frontenacs with 5-7 first rounders like Cooley plays with, do you think Wright would be playing at a super level and I say that respectfully and factually Wright is carrying 2nd to 5th rounders on his ohl tram - give him some players and I believe he will blossom if that eases your concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramcharger440 Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, H_T_L said: There are tons of similarity IMO. The little i've seen of Wright has been anything but overwhelming.. I sincerely hope i'm dead wrong. I have seen him play in person a few times. I have no worries about him being a great player and here he will have Zuke to help him transition we will also have MSL who will give him the chance to play his game. Don't forget back in 81we had just lost Dryden Bowman Lemaire Savard was leaving and we had a bad coach! Bob Berry! who came in after Ruel in 80 it would have been tough for any first round pick to get going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, maas_art said: Finally, FINALLY we know why this happened: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis22 Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, maas_art said: I found the article, if anyone is interested. A different take on the wickenheiser saga anyway:https://recrutes.ca/wickenheiser-mistake-dont-blame-scouts/ That article is a reflection of how Montreal has been treating young prospects forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramcharger440 Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 At least this crappy season was not all for nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campabee82 Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 Ok with 1st locked up and the top 4 not likely moving is there any chance we can convince Philly to give up their 1st + another small peice for Petry? I am not sure we could but would definitely look at that option to get one of Nemec (who is likely gone by 5th) or Jiricek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, claremont said: Well if you loaded up Kingston Frontenacs with 5-7 first rounders like Cooley plays with, do you think Wright would be playing at a super level and I say that respectfully and factually Wright is carrying 2nd to 5th rounders on his ohl tram - give him some players and I believe he will blossom if that eases your concern 8 minutes ago, ramcharger440 said: I have seen him play in person a few times. I have no worries about him being a great player and here he will have Zuke to help him transition we will also have MSL who will give him the chance to play his game. Don't forget back in 81we had just lost Dryden Bowman Lemaire Savard was leaving and we had a bad coach! Bob Berry! who came in after Ruel in 80 it would have been tough for any first round pick to get going! Keep it coming guys. I need all the convincing you can throw my way. I really haven't seen much of this kid, and every game i did see him play,,, he was pretty much invisible other then the odd decent shift. Once again,,,, i hope i'm way off base about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, campabee82 said: Ok with 1st locked up and the top 4 not likely moving is there any chance we can convince Philly to give up their 1st + another small peice for Petry? I am not sure we could but would definitely look at that option to get one of Nemec (who is likely gone by 5th) or Jiricek. I don't think you can get that much for Petry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 I don't want to rush Wright. I want the habs to seriously consider having him play junior another year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 Just now, habsisme said: I don't want to rush Wright. I want the habs to seriously consider having him play junior another year That's because you want a shot at Bedard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campabee82 Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 1 minute ago, habsisme said: I don't think you can get that much for Petry He finished the year at a .5 ppg pace under MSL, so I don't think it's as much of a Longshot anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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