HabsRuleForever Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Two year contract extension that averages $3.85mil annually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkgoalie Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 works for me,if he had good d men in front of him imo he can still put up good numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramcharger440 Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Sounds good fair wage and good term too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 All good. Maybe provides us a little insight into when Hughes feels we'll turn a corner, as well. Allen and Primeau locked in for three years. When those contracts expire, Hughes will be in a position to take a hard, long look at the goaltending position. Will Primeau be ready to be Montreal's #1? Will another prospect have stepped up? Will Hughes look to make a trade or sign someone in free agency? All questions for 2025-26. But fun to speculate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arpem-can Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 26 minutes ago, jennifer_rocket said: All good. Maybe provides us a little insight into when Hughes feels we'll turn a corner, as well. Allen and Primeau locked in for three years. When those contracts expire, Hughes will be in a position to take a hard, long look at the goaltending position. Will Primeau be ready to be Montreal's #1? Will another prospect have stepped up? Will Hughes look to make a trade or sign someone in free agency? All questions for 2025-26. But fun to speculate. agree ...first thing I thought was that Hughes doesn't see the team seriously turning it around until year 2024-2025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Meh I'm not thrilled about this. I don't hate it but why not wait until the end of the season depending on how he plays? And now he doesn't have much value at the deadline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis22 Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, habsisme said: Meh I'm not thrilled about this. I don't hate it but why not wait until the end of the season depending on how he plays? And now he doesn't have much value at the deadline It’s not like Montreal has any potential future star goaltending prospects waiting . Maybe they don’t want to quaint until the end of the year and the you end up like the leafs with left over reclamation projects to choose from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, Regis22 said: It’s not like Montreal has any potential future star goaltending prospects waiting . Maybe they don’t want to quaint until the end of the year and the you end up like the leafs with left over reclamation projects to choose from but if we're rebuilding I don't mind the risk. If he plays well we should trade him and if he doesn't we shouldn't re-sign him. If he's mediocre he comes back on a short-term deal. That's how I would have handled it. We had much better options. Now we're likely stuck with a mediocre goalie for the next 3 years which doesn't take you closer to winning or losing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claremont Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, habsisme said: but if we're rebuilding I don't mind the risk. If he plays well we should trade him and if he doesn't we shouldn't re-sign him. If he's mediocre he comes back on a short-term deal. That's how I would have handled it. We had much better options. Now we're likely stuck with a mediocre goalie for the next 3 years which doesn't take you closer to winning or losing I understand your perspective but 1) by all reports and because he played in the QMJHL, Jake likes it here and has been a good supporting teammate 2) this contract provides a good base of stability in goal for the core players. So Jake got a bit of a reward - sometimes building the right culture and having players that WANT to be here is more important than the business side of things you allude to - that’s what HUGO said when they arrived so they stuck to it i know it’s not a country club old boy network of just paying out Molson money either. As far as mediocre, Let’s wait and see how Allen does this year with a better coach vs the injuries and Ducharme he had last year. I believe Jake is better than what he has shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsisme Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, claremont said: I understand your perspective but 1) by all reports and because he played in the QMJHL, Jake likes it here and has been a good supporting teammate 2) this contract provides a good base of stability in goal for the core players. So Jake got a bit of a reward - sometimes building the right culture and having players that WANT to be here is more important than the business side of things you allude to - that’s what HUGO said when they arrived so they stuck to it i know it’s not a country club old boy network of just paying out Molson money either. As far as mediocre, Let’s wait and see how Allen does this year with a better coach vs the injuries and Ducharme he had last year. I believe Jake is better than what he has shown. oh I think Allen might be great this year, but to me that means you trade him for assets. Now its harder to do that. But yeah, I mean its not a HORRIBLE move, lots of reasons to like it too, just not what I would have done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AH64 Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Good deal and teams will still try to trade for him when the time comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramcharger440 Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 36 minutes ago, AH64 said: Good deal and teams will still try to trade for him when the time comes. Yep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 4 hours ago, arpem-can said: agree ...first thing I thought was that Hughes doesn't see the team seriously turning it around until year 2024-2025 2 hours ago, Regis22 said: It’s not like Montreal has any potential future star goaltending prospects waiting . Maybe they don’t want to quaint until the end of the year and the you end up like the leafs with left over reclamation projects to choose from Yeah, first thing I thought was that Montreal was desperate to retain Allen for the near future because they have nothing in the goaltending cupboard. Montembeault is weak. Primeau has a major confidence issue. The rest of the guys (Dobes, Vrbetic, etc.) are still a few years away if they ever make it. Allen is the transition guy, and while I would have seen value in trading him this year, I can also see how if you're going to end up going with 3-4 rookies on your D corps, you probably want to help them out with a veteran in goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, habsisme said: but if we're rebuilding I don't mind the risk. If he plays well we should trade him and if he doesn't we shouldn't re-sign him. If he's mediocre he comes back on a short-term deal. That's how I would have handled it. We had much better options. Now we're likely stuck with a mediocre goalie for the next 3 years which doesn't take you closer to winning or losing I think that's kind of the point. Hughes doesn't imagine us being a competitor until these three years are in our past. We have our goaltending position settled for a very reasonable cost. We reevaluate after three years when, hopefully, we'll be ready to compete again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, habsisme said: oh I think Allen might be great this year, but to me that means you trade him for assets. Now its harder to do that. But yeah, I mean its not a HORRIBLE move, lots of reasons to like it too, just not what I would have done I don't know that it makes him harder to trade. Especially if he has an awesome year. His two-year extension is very reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron58 Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 3 hours ago, AH64 said: Good deal and teams will still try to trade for him when the time comes. Agree. A very tradeable asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme-1 Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 Smart move getting him locked up to a very reasonable deal. We have no idea who our goaltender of the future is (as I've mentioned in other spots, I don't think NHL teams have any idea how to project goalies), so good to have a stable presence around while we figure it out, especially since I'm a believer that for the sake of the young players, even when rebuilding, you need to ensure the team isn't a complete laughingstock and there are good mentors and leaders on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regis22 Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 Pierre LEbrun Jake Allen extension: $4.4M in Year 1 and $3.3M in Year 2. $500K SB in Year 1 and $1M SB in Year 2. Limited no trade in both years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_T_L Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Monty took some justified abuse for his play last year. I think it's time Allen take the heat of late. He has been anything but good this year. Can't seem to get pass the first few shots without giving up a goal of late. His save percentage is pretty bad for an NHL starter. He seems to get better as he gets into the game but his starts have just been brutal. Poor preparation??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Whatever it is, he's definitely struggled this season. As of now, I consider Montembeault our actual no. 1 and Allen the backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron58 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 3 hours ago, H_T_L said: Monty took some justified abuse for his play last year. I think it's time Allen take the heat of late. He has been anything but good this year. Can't seem to get pass the first few shots without giving up a goal of late. His save percentage is pretty bad for an NHL starter. Jake seems to get better as he gets into the game but his starts have just been brutal. Poor preparation??? Or still not 100%. It's easy to forget that Monty played most of the last half of the season with an injury. He did it for the team, as the Habs really had no one else. Off season surgery corrected that and he came into this season healthy & with a new contract. Glad to see that he is playing better, and deserves some praise. Is he the answer? Well, we have nothing but time. Let Monty play the bulk of the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 2 hours ago, jennifer_rocket said: Whatever it is, he's definitely struggled this season. As of now, I consider Montembeault our actual no. 1 and Allen the backup. For sure, but he's glorious at steering the: Honestly, tonight's game is exactly what i want for the rest of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron58 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 6 hours ago, maas_art said: Honestly, tonight's game is exactly what i want for the rest of the year. For sure. & that's all we really want. So long as the effort is there, and they're playing exciting hockey, you can deal with the losses, knowing, there could be a light at the end of the tunnel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptWelly Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 13 hours ago, maas_art said: For sure, but he's glorious at steering the: Honestly, tonight's game is exactly what i want for the rest of the year. Even close games aren't fun to watch if you're always losing. No matter the outcome down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maas_art Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 7 minutes ago, CaptWelly said: Even close games aren't fun to watch if you're always losing. No matter the outcome down the road. Big picture! Also, im not watching all the games this year. Crazy busy with deadlines but... not really trying hard to fit them in either. The good news it that a main reason why we are so bad / losing so much is injuries. I think next October this will be a quite different team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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