Guest jludlow Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 montreal prospects are meeting at the martin lapointe arena and there is alot of great young talent that will be there. Among the players is kyle chipchura who is a work horse who played the entire season in the ahl and had a good year. i was just wondering what everyone else thinks of him. i searched for a kyle chipchura appreciation thread but could not find it. if in fact there is then i appoligize for having to lock a thread...... anyway cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shea619 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 I never saw a chipchura thread. But Im new. but hes suppost to be great. I mean he better be if he was the captain of the canadian junior team. But I'm not holding my breath lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jludlow Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 I never saw a chipchura thread. But Im new. but hes suppost to be great. I mean he better be if he was the captain of the canadian junior team. But I'm not holding my breath lol.[/quote:92b0536a6b]yes he was the captain eh i forgot about that yeah im sure he will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp73 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 He only played 8 games in the AHL ( American Hockey League ) for Hamilton - he played 59 games in the WHL ( Western Junior ) for Prince Albert Probably goes on to fill Bonk's role http://hockeysfuture.com/prospect/kyle_chipchura Talent Analysis A big, strong two-way center with some offensive upside but who many project to be a third liner in the NHL. Chipchura’s biggest asset is his strength, which makes him an ideal checking forward and a good penalty killer. He’s a player who is solid in all areas of the game but doesn’t really stand out in any one specific aspect. Highly regarded all year by some scouting services, many feel he’s been overrated at times and his performance in Belarus for Canada was not very noteworthy. “He played one really good game and that was against Sweden but against USA and Denmark he did nothing,” said one scout. “Foot speed is going to be a concern.” “I think you’ll see some team take him on reputation alone but he’s not going to be any more then a third line player,” commented another scout. “He played on the third line at this U18 tournament! He played a third line-checking role and when they played USA and were beat by them, he really wasn’t a factor at all.” Future He is the kind of player who goes on to have a long, if not outstanding, professional career. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Chipchura When asked why he chose Chipchura, Sutter said: "He's a heart and soul guy and when you have a team that is perhaps lacking some experience at the national level, which obviously we are, you need a real strong character and real strong person mentally that's totally committed to the way we want to play. He's probably a huge reflection of myself." http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/draft/draft0...yer?playerId=31 KYLE CHIPCHURA CENTER | (6-2, 197) | PRINCE ALBERT (WHL) BORN: February 19, 1986 SHOOTS: L CENTRAL SCOUTING: No. 4 North American Skater Round: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 Prospects by: Players | Teams | Leagues | Rankings | Positions Rank provided by NHL Central Scouting final report. Players without a ranking appeared on the mid-season report, but not the final. SELECTED BY MONTREAL, ROUND 1, PICK 18, OVERALL PICK 18 If you are looking for a guy who does a lot of little things right, you've come to the right place. Kyle Chipchura wins faceoffs, checks well, kills penalties and has good hockey sense. His downside? He isn't expected to be a big scorer at the next level. "I don't think he has that kind of finish around the net," said a scout. Chipchura helped himself at the world under-18 tournament by being one of Canada's top players. Earlier this season, Chipchura was in the running to be picked in the top 10, but disappeared in the eyes of some scouts. "He was really good in the first half and then he slipped," said a scout. "Then he was good late to save his year." Chipchura is pegged to be a third-line NHL player who will get the job done. "He can check well and kill penalties," said another scout. "He has some offensive upside, but he'll have to work on it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs-fan-UK Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 According to hockey's future he is our 5th best prospect. They say: A big, strong two-way center with some offensive upside but who many project to be a third liner in the NHL. Chipchura’s biggest asset is his strength, which makes him an ideal checking forward and a good penalty killer. He’s a player who is solid in all areas of the game but doesn’t really stand out in any one specific aspect. Highly regarded all year by some scouting services, many feel he’s been overrated at times and his performance in Belarus for Canada was not very noteworthy.“He played one really good game and that was against Sweden but against USA and Denmark he did nothing,” said one scout. “Foot speed is going to be a concern.” “I think you’ll see some team take him on reputation alone but he’s not going to be any more then a third line player,” commented another scout. “He played on the third line at this U18 tournament! He played a third line-checking role and when they played USA and were beat by them, he really wasn’t a factor at all.” He will be a decent player for us and could be a future captain but i doubt he will set the league on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godkyle Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 He never spent the entire season in hamilton, he actually spent the entire season in Prince Albert playing for their Raiders, once their season ended however he was signed to a contract and came over and played for Hamilton and finished the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jludlow Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 lots of info about chipchura but im syre as progresses he may find himself away from the third line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habs-fan-UK Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Beat me to it Regis!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonutoxt Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 I fully expected Chipchura to develop into our third line centre. He does not have the offensive ability to be anything higher than that. He'll be a great leader for the team, he's another Begin type player, with more tools and has more offensive numbers. But that kind of heart and soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jludlow Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 He never spent the entire season in hamilton, he actually spent the entire season in Prince Albert playing for their Raiders, once their season ended however he was signed to a contract and came over and played for Hamilton and finished the season.[/quote:b2842a8b6c]yeah i am aaware i was reading the article about montreals prospects and it said chipchura "completed" so i thought it meant tho whole year but apparently it was only 8 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp73 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Don't expect Chipchura to light the league on fire . No 100 pts or 50 goals. Sounds like he'll be a solid two way player - see ex Habs Gainey , Carbo , Jarvis who all had long NHL careers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miltie01 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Don't expect Chipchura to light the league on fire .No 100 pts or 50 goals. Sounds like he'll be a solid two way player - see ex Habs Gainey , Carbo , Jarvis who all had long NHL careers[/quote:e2e909dd70] He will be our Captain someday !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hoser Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Don't expect Chipchura to light the league on fire .No 100 pts or 50 goals. Sounds like he'll be a solid two way player - see ex Habs Gainey , Carbo , Jarvis who all had long NHL careers[/quote:6b4a4344fa] That's what he was drafted to be. Our prospect pool was desperatly lacking gritty, two-way centers, and than Gainey looked in a mirror and saw Kyle Chipchura looking back and took him in the first round. I can see this kid winning more than a few Selke's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashdown_mtl Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 being realistic , he'll put up prob as may points as a begin , let say about 30 but hes a very hard worker and checker and could be used as a spark plug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keith Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Based on only a few impressions, I think this kid has a bit more than he is noted for. They say he was quiet in the International Juniours, but he did have moments of brilliance in my eye. A comparable player at this moment would be Raffi Torres, not a scorer, but can hold their ground and make up for it in the defensive department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs-24 Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Don't expect Chipchura to light the league on fire .No 100 pts or 50 goals. Sounds like he'll be a solid two way player - see ex Habs Gainey , Carbo , Jarvis who all had long NHL careers[/quote:ea19a1e7b3] thats exactly what we need, glad he will be here in a few years,,,, leave it all on the ice type player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rob2h Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 don't be surprised if he is a regular 50 point plus man he put up good numbers in the junior tournament.IMO his offensive skills are under-estimated,which will also be good for the habs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spankydriscoll Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 don't be surprised if he is a regular 50 point plus man he put up good numbers in the junior tournament.IMO his offensive skills are under-estimated,which will also be good for the habs.[/quote:8d256dade1]50 points on the 3rd line is a bit of a stretch...unless you play for the Senators.. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaneuf_Falls_Down Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 I think this guy is a great hockey player, and a fantastic leader. However I find for a first rounder, he isn't good enough. he will never be a sniper or an offensive star. he is a defensive forward, with a slight offensive touch. I find he's a great addition to any team, but not a first round player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100proofevil Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Based on only a few impressions, I think this kid has a bit more than he is noted for. They say he was quiet in the International Juniours, but he did have moments of brilliance in my eye.A comparable player at this moment would be Raffi Torres, not a scorer, but can hold their ground and make up for it in the defensive department.[/quote:ce3b7ab27a] Quiet? hes known as a two way player and had 4 goals in 6 games./.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hoser Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 I think this guy is a great hockey player, and a fantastic leader. However I find for a first rounder, he isn't good enough. he will never be a sniper or an offensive star. he is a defensive forward, with a slight offensive touch. I find he's a great addition to any team, but not a first round player.[/quote:e26ec1d302]Explain. Defensive players are every bit as important as offensive players, if you find a good one, why not use your 1st round pick on him? Bob Gainey himself was the 8th overall pick, and for a time the Soviet's considered him the best player on the planet - and his career-high in points was 47. I see a hell of a lot of Gainey in Chipchura - from playing style to personality. I think this kid is well worth a 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaneuf_Falls_Down Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 I understand that defense is just as important as offense is thsi game, but your first round pick is supposed to some day be a game changer. In todays NHL, if you ask me if i'd prefer to have chris draper or peter forsberg, the asnwer is evident. I find taking a defensive oriented forward is not what the habs needed at that or this point in time. Defensive forwards are also easier to find, via trade or signing, than natural scorers are. I just think that teams should take the highest impact players during the first round, cuz the last thing we want is another oops, the guy we didnt take who got taken two picks later, is now an elite scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miltie01 Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 I understand that defense is just as important as offense is thsi game, but your first round pick is supposed to some day be a game changer. In todays NHL, if you ask me if i'd prefer to have chris draper or peter forsberg, the asnwer is evident. I find taking a defensive oriented forward is not what the habs needed at that or this point in time. Defensive forwards are also easier to find, via trade or signing, than natural scorers are. I just think that teams should take the highest impact players during the first round, cuz the last thing we want is another oops, the guy we didnt take who got taken two picks later, is now an elite scorer.[/quote:3fdae88e38]Don't worry yourself too much, this guy wiil be a game changer and a high impact player, just not in the way you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest P.Royfan Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 I think this guy is a great hockey player, and a fantastic leader. However I find for a first rounder, he isn't good enough. he will never be a sniper or an offensive star. he is a defensive forward, with a slight offensive touch. I find he's a great addition to any team, but not a first round player.[/quote:d7d44f6a42]Explain. Defensive players are every bit as important as offensive players, if you find a good one, why not use your 1st round pick on him? Bob Gainey himself was the 8th overall pick, and for a time the Soviet's considered him the best player on the planet - and his career-high in points was 47. I see a hell of a lot of Gainey in Chipchura - from playing style to personality. I think this kid is well worth a 1st round pick.[/quote:d7d44f6a42] Well this ironic. GM Bob Gainey being criticized for picking a player in the first round who is going to end up playing like Bob Gainey. What's the ironic part about that you ask? Well Sam Pollock picked Bob Gainey in the first round every one thought that he was a straight jacket away from the looney bin! Where is Bob know???? Oh yes the Hockey Hall of Fame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phaneuf_Falls_Down Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Veryone seems to get me wrong. I'm not saying Kyle will be a bust, I'm not saying he will never make an impact in the NHL. I'm not even saying that he doesnt have the potential to one day be included in the Hall of Fame. All I'm saying is that 5 years from now, when Chipchura is on the 3rd or 2nd line, scoring 20 goals max, killing penalties and all, their will be some guy who was drafted after him, scoring 40+ goals and racking up the points. Non of us can really judge the true value of that pick, until he has played with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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